Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
The Constitution doesn't specify laws regarding primary elections.
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California Gov Signs Bill To Exclude Trump From 2020 Election Ballot (SP 27)
- Thread starter SugarOcean
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Even if they don't vote, if they're counted in the census.
They give proportional representation power in Congress.
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Even without specification, the justices would likely look to original intent.
I'm confident that they'd be loath to grant states the power to decide
which major candidates can be excluded. Legal rationale can always
be constructed when they've a compelling interest in a particular outcome.
Or he could release his tax returns.
What? Are you crazy?
I wouldn't. Even without something to hide, I'd suspect the opposition would find a way to make a mountain out of a molehill.
No doubt, Trump has plenty of questionable shenanigans with his taxes dealing with that much money. Why offer the Democrats more ammo?
Same for anti-religious folk who don't want religious text on govt property.
What? Are you crazy?
I wouldn't. Even without something to hide, I'd suspect the opposition would find a way to make a mountain out of a molehill.
No doubt, Trump has plenty of questionable shenanigans with his taxes dealing with that much money. Why offer the Democrats more ammo?
He said he would as a campaign promise.
How does that count in your book?
Transparency is good, right?
SugarOcean
¡pɹᴉǝM ʎɐʇS
Well of course.
However, the point being, they're not actually entitled to vote.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Would you have said the same had a vet criticized Obama while he was in office? I doubt it.
Opinions are divided on that.
But they are represented in Congress the Electoral College.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
And Trump might have wanted to end that. He did want the noncitizens counted separately.
SugarOcean
¡pɹᴉǝM ʎɐʇS
Not surprising now days.
Illegal Aliens in Elections and the Electoral College | Federation for American Immigration Reform
...The Role of Illegal Aliens in Influencing the Electoral College Vote
By including illegal aliens in the Census data used to apportion seats in the U.S. House of Representatives, areas with large numbers of illegal residents gain additional representatives.1 See our Issue Brief "Illegal Immigrants Distort Congressional Representation and Federal Programs." Because the number of votes of each state in the Electoral College is determined by the number of national representatives, illegal aliens are also given a role in influencing the outcome of the selection process for the presidency.2
According to a study by the Center for Immigration Studies, there were four seats in the U.S. House of Representatives that were shifted among the states on the basis of the number of illegal aliens in the 2000 Census.3 States that are currently expected to cast their Electoral College votes for President Bush in the 2004 election lost three seats in the post-2000 Census reapportionment (Ind., Miss., and Mont.) and gained one (N.C.) for a net loss of two House seats and, therefore, two Electoral College votes. California, which gained three House seats, and, therefore, three Electoral College votes as a result of illegal aliens counted in the 2000 Census, is expected to cast its votes for Sen. Kerry. But, Michigan, which also is expected to support Kerry, lost one House seat and, therefore, one Electoral College vote. So, by including the illegal alien population in reapportioning the nation's nationally elected representatives, Sen. Kerry may have a net gain of two votes in the Electoral College.4
If the outcome of the 2004 presidential election is very close, the four vote swing—two won, two lost—in Electoral College voting caused by including illegal aliens in the apportionment of congressional seats could be enough to determine the outcome.
The Constitution & legislation are tough reading.
But it appears that illegals get representation.
Supreme Court rules in redistricting case: Illegal immigrants can be counted
Ellen Brown
Well-Known Member
What that tells me about you is that you take great satisfaction in being verbally abusive.
How very tragic for those who encounter you off-line.
You should be ashamed how you slander your commander in chief.
I'm saddened to read a self-identified veteran displays such disrespect for their service and their country by promoting anti-Trump propaganda anonymously on-line.
Looking forward to being put back on your ignore list.
Fine, then put me on ignore. My service during Vietnam Era was not voluntary, and I almost went to Canada because I did not support the war. So, for me my service carries more value. The fact that our President, a draft avoider, is such a womanizer, molester, and mob actuary makes it doubly hard.
I put you on ignore because I did not like your Nazi Republican stance, and now that you have made accusations of me, plan to ignore you again. I put you on ignore because I did not wish to fight with you. That makes me verbally abusive? LOL
How did you manage to be subject to the draft...which I gather from your post?
As for avoiding the draft...that's a wise thing to do.
I give Trump credit for not submitting to that evil.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Except the bill doesn't say Trump can't be on the primary ballot, rather that you have to release your taxes to be on the state ballot. Of course we all know it's aimed at Trump, but courts requires concrete facts and hard evidence.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
That was prohibited straight from the start with the First Amendment.
SugarOcean
¡pɹᴉǝM ʎɐʇS
Indeed. He obtained a deferment due to being enrolled in college as was his right. Vietnam was an illegal war He had every right not to participate in that evil, as you said.
I didn't mention the primary.
Do you think the USSC would notice that CA intends to
specifically prevent Trump from being on the ballot?
I say it is far worse to serve in a war one doesn't support.
To know it's wrong to kill, but to do so anyway....one would
be in a poor position to criticize Trump for avoiding the draft.
My personal situation...
I committed a felony by refusing my induction physical.
I'd have moved to Canuckistan had Nixon not cancelled
the draft in the nick of time. I've no regrets.
If any patriots object, they know what to do at a rolling donut.
This could backfire spectacularly. Angered California Republicans could use the Initiative process to repeal this and motivate them to do things such as recall Newsom. They would be joined by others that object to this ham handed stunt such as Libertarians and independent voters.