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Isn't that how many people operate - well, I hope it's not many.
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Quote about the origin of violence?
- Thread starter Geoff-Allen
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Isn't that how many people operate - well, I hope it's not many.
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Where does non-violence come from?
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I'm not sure I would label what they do patriotism, maybe politics.
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I have to admit that I like a rousing debate but I don't like violence at all.
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You are absolutely right. That is what abuse is, rape is, murder is and some religious people are.
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Sometimes you might have to. If someone was pointing a gun at a family member and you had a gun, wouldn't you shoot? I love peace but I also believe in defense - that's my military background.
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Only if you can disarm the person. If he is too far to reach, you might need to make a different decision. Many things depend on the circumstances involved. You can't make blanket statements.
Spirit of Light
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As a pacifist i would not carry a gun or shoot someone with it.
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Understand that those people have their own problems, lots of anger, pain and sometimes fear. No excuse, just want you to see that every story has at least two sides.
Spirit of Light
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If he is far away i would walk away
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I tend to agree, but there seems to be a natural violence within us as well (as a species, and hardly unique to us), perhaps as a natural reaction to events or how we perceive reality. A mother (of most species), will react violently to any harm threatened to their child. That seems to be quite natural. Our instinct for survival might also do the same - fighting over the last lifeboat, for example. But, as I said earlier, the imposition or recognition of labels is possibly the most serious aspect that often invokes violence these days. It seems that we can't but fail to label others - just so convenient, and it saves all the hard work of compassion, understanding, and tolerance.
I try to be as non-violent and non-labeling as possible but when I see that some people are verbally or physically violent, I am concerned. I try to understand their reasoning but sometimes it is just narcissism, selfishness, greed and hardheartedness.
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If you can but I was raised with guns. They will shoot for a great distance and just running allows the shooter to shoot you often. It does take an excellent marksman to shoot someone who weaves, however. Running straight away will not save you.
Spirit of Light
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I know one should not walk in straight line
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So, would you just allow the other person to kill you, a family member or any other human being? The police have to shoot violent people. Granted, there are police who are unjust in the way they treat others but some are just and need to stop violent people. If there were less people stopping violence, violence would be even more pronounced.
Spirit of Light
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I would of course protect my family, if i die in doing so it is ok. But no i will not use guns
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I'm with you on that. I would die for my family.
It's still victim blaming. Perhaps a bit of reflection as to why a person wants privacy/separation by those wishing to do violence might be in order.
Jedster
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I agree, but sometimes one has to be physical in order to put them down. N'est-ce pas?
Well the only reason to harm someone is if it prevents worse harm, you know, like someone is about to knife you or similar.
It is easy to talk theoretically here, but in real-time there is hardly any time to think about it.
If you really value life, you will use violence when all else fails.
Buddhist or not.
Jedster
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True, but no reason not to defend against an attack.
Spirit of Light
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I have not used in to harm others and will not use force to harm others As a Buddhist i live a peaceful life, and if others harm me that is their problem