and that proves that consciousness can adapt to any condition
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Unconditional Mind
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consciousness doesn't have to be awake, or aware of what is outside of itself; as you have just explained. simply because the brain, transceiver no longer works, doesn't mean the signalling, information has stopped. the electromagnetic field is fundamental.
dybmh
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In that case, the word "we" in the OP is erroneous?
The Reverend Bob
Fart Machine and Beastmaster
Consciousness always need a reference point
Darkforbid
Well-Known Member
Who said this: consciousness doesn't have to be awake, or aware of what is outside of itself
The Reverend Bob
Fart Machine and Beastmaster
Yes it does
doesn't distract from the underlying question of unconditional mind.
no it doesn't. consciousness doesn't have to be aware of otherness as self, nor does it have to be exclusively conscious of self.
many humans are not aware of themselves but others and some humans are aware of themselves and not others.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
No, it doesn't. Some organisms kill themselves because they are not able to adapt and cope with their given condition.
Darkforbid
Well-Known Member
Who said this: consciousness doesn't have to be awake, or aware of what is outside of itself
I asked because my phones flagging you as the same person
And why did you delete the writing in bold
doesn't "matter", energy, cannot be created/destroyed. simply transforms E = M(c*c).
stupid is as stupid does.
dybmh
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respectfully: that was the point I was making.
I think it's important; because, from the perspective of the unconditional mind, before there is "we"; "we" doesn't exist. But once the unconditional mind applies the limits and borders that render multiplicity ( "we" ) then "we" exist?
Maybe I'm missing your point?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Those are theories and laws of physics, not biology.
dybmh
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Further...
using the word "enter" requires a beginning. a "beginning" requires a limit.
Therefore: "do we enter into this existence with an unconditional, limitless mind?" No.
1) "we" requires a limit
2) "enter" requires a limit
respectfully the subject isn't about humans. its about consciousnesses; whether human, or otherwise. i'm speaking on metapsychology, on how the mind can adapt to anything and even causes the body to evolve through epigenetic and over longer periods.
and they explain to you that energy; which consciousness is, doesn't come and go with a form. consciousness comes as an electrical impulse in a biological, or non-biological transceiver.
the bigger the transceiver the better the signal reception, conveyance.
it isn't rocket science
The Reverend Bob
Fart Machine and Beastmaster
Not me.
i didn't use the word enter in relationship to the mind. i used it in reference to a personality, or third density created thing.. a hive mind can still contain bots and be understood as ONE hive mind.
the form is not the consciousness. the form is a vehicle. it may be created but mind is the uncreated creator.
minds arise from the delusion that self is separate, unique at many levels. its how evil things justify their behavior in relationship to otherness
Darkforbid
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I wouldn't say dissipation was transformation
dybmh
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I'm not sure that a "bot" is a good example; because, a "bot" is completely limited. Being part of a hive mind, is the opposite of unlimited.