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What is the true meaning of the swastika?

  • Nazi sybol

  • It is the sign of the Buddha

  • I dont know

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The Reverend Bob

The Reverend Bob

Fart Machine and Beastmaster
ChristineM said:
Deliberate destruction is vandalism, destruction in the name of sensibilities is terrorism

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If a church wants to renovate who are you to tell them they can't. Let us say I owned this marvel of architecture built by the famous Greene brothers:

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And wanted to tear it down, to build a new house. Who are you to tell me I can't?
 
Darkforbid

Darkforbid

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ChristineM said:
Did you say that or did you copy and paste it?

We still haven't covered RF rules on
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It's from the OUP tell you what I'll take a walk that way tomorrow it's on Walton Street do you want me to send the 'usage approval bill' (or whatever they're calling it) directly to you or through this site?
 
ChristineM

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
The Reverend Bob said:
If a church wants to renovate who are you to tell them they can't. Let us say I owned this marvel of architecture built by the famous Greene brothers:

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And wanted to tear it down, to build a new house. Who are you to tell me I can't?
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Compare if to

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And

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And
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Beautiful buildings with swastikas as a part

Or what would you replace floors like these with?

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ChristineM

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
The Reverend Bob said:
If a church chooses to renovate and get rid of their Nazi symbols then so let them. It is nobodies business but the church
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They are not necessarily nazi symbols, long before that they were religious symbols.

And of course planning regulations and preservation orders carry far more legal weight than sensibilities.

Oh and to some extent, the nazi symbol was religious

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Gott mit uns = god with us
 
SomeRandom

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
The Reverend Bob said:
If a church chooses to renovate and get rid of their Nazi symbols then so let them. It is nobodies business but the church
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The swastika predates the Nazis by like a few thousand years. It is in reality a universal symbol, likely derived from the patterns found in weaving. Even Jewish tribes used the swastika. I think there’s even a movement of Jewish folk who want to reclaim the Swastika.
It is very sacred and holy to certain religions to this day. And we will absolutely not bow to ignorance and hate. It’s our ancient symbol used to represent peace and we will use it if we want. It’s the age of information, ignorance is not a good enough excuse to tear down ancient artwork or religious buildings.
(Oh and to hell with Nazis. Bunch of fascist ********.)
 
The Reverend Bob

The Reverend Bob

Fart Machine and Beastmaster
ChristineM said:
They are not necessarily nazi symbols, long before that they were religious symbols.

And of course planning regulations and preservation orders carry far more legal weight than sensibilities.

Oh and to some extent, the nazi symbol was religious

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Well the Nazis ruined lots of things for people. You don't see many people running around with toothbrush mustaches anymore.
 
Unguru

Unguru

I am a Sikh nice to meet you
I don't care what Hindus say, it's a Nazi symbol full-stop. You can't give it special treatment when everything around us is appropriated to different meanings. Once the Nazis used it, it ceased to be a Hindu symbol as far as I'm concerned, just like the appropriation of other things in our current culture.
 
Stanyon

Stanyon

WWMRD?
I fully endorse the reclamation of the Swastika, it is a beautiful symbol of life and the forces of nature forever moving onward.
 
SomeRandom

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
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Unguru said:
I don't care what Hindus say, it's a Nazi symbol full-stop. You can't give it special treatment when everything around us is appropriated to different meanings. Once the Nazis used it, it ceased to be a Hindu symbol as far as I'm concerned, just like the appropriation of other things in our current culture.
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Actually I have seen toothbrush moustaches. Fun fact, Charlie Chaplin used his own iconic toothbrush moustache to counter the Nazi propaganda during the 30s. (It makes sense in context.)
Besides the Nazi swastika is tilted the wrong way, anyway. A Dharmic Swastika is not. Hell my cousin is legally named Swastika (meaning auspiciousness.)
We will not kowtow to the hate and fear of the Nazis.
 
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