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Christians And Sodomy

RESOLUTION

Active Member
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So, my question is: Why would god put such an abundance of pleasure-producing nerve endings in the anus unless he intended them to be stimulated, and in turn provide sexual gratification?

I don't necessarily expect a good scientific or theological answer, but would like the reasonable Christian here to evaluate their religion's position on it, particularly in light gay anal sex. If god thinks gay anal sex is sinful, why put all these pleasurable nerve endings in the male anus? Likewise, putting them in a female anus would seem to invite male-female anal sex.

Seems to me something in Christian theology has gone very much awry. My suspicion is that it's a prejudice that arose out of simple revulsion among heterosexuals toward anal sex .

Your thoughts.

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Hi Skwim,
A well thought out and presented post regarding anul sex. But the fact is it is dangerous to have anul sex and it can cause other problems for both men and women.
Nerve endings are a source of warning providing pain when something not right.
In males or females the anus had a purpose to pass waste from the human body. Nerve endings essential it tells us when something is wrong like having piles/haemorrhoids and other conditions.

I think we know each part of the human body has a purpose and sometimes things go wrong. So much disease can be caused by anal sex. it isn't safe.
 

JJ50

Well-Known Member
Hi Skwim,
A well thought out and presented post regarding anul sex. But the fact is it is dangerous to have anul sex and it can cause other problems for both men and women.
Nerve endings are a source of warning providing pain when something not right.
In males or females the anus had a purpose to pass waste from the human body. Nerve endings essential it tells us when something is wrong like having piles/haemorrhoids and other conditions.

I think we know each part of the human body has a purpose and sometimes things go wrong. So much disease can be caused by anal sex. it isn't safe.
SEZ YOU!
 

RESOLUTION

Active Member

Read up on it.. Says the medical world and reality. Anal sex can cause fissures which are tears in the bowel walls allowing your waste to spill into other parts of the body
which spread the bacteria into other organs.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
If the Sodom and Gomorrah isn't the unpleasant fairy tale I believe it to be, and the god character was responsible, it should be put up again the wall and shot for crimes against humanity. :mad:

Well, archaeologists haven't found any evidence for the cities of the plain, but geologist think that the seismic activity that destroyed the region dates to 2600 BC.. long before Abraham.

So its probably case of creating a morality tale around a devastated piece of real estate.

The sin of Sodom and Gomorrah was a failure to show hospitality to strangers.
 

JJ50

Well-Known Member
Read up on it.. Says the medical world and reality. Anal sex can cause fissures which are tears in the bowel walls allowing your waste to spill into other parts of the body
which spread the bacteria into other organs.
Anti-gay bigot!
 

RESOLUTION

Active Member
Anti-gay bigot!

Is truth about medical facts really anti-gay or bigot factors?
My nephew is gay he gets married in Vegas next year with his partner he will tell you I am not and never have been anti-gay or a bigot.

Do I have faith? Yes I do. Is God right? Yes of course he is. But does God love sinners whatever their sin?
Yes he does. Sin is sin and there is no difference in sins they all lead to death and all equally wrong in Gods sight.

God loves sinners he sent his Son to die for them. It that the actions of a bigot? No! I am afraid you will have to look elsewhere for something to fight over sin.
You see I don't see anyone bemoaning the fact thieves, liars, adulterers and murderers are all condemned in the bible too.
Are people bigots if they make a statement as such but never harm or complain about them?

The gay community will never have any peace till people not gay stop making them the butt of their arguments with people on religious sites. Why not fight the corner
of the thieves, liars, adulterers and murderers or is it because you agree these things are wrong? Could you be a liar told a white lie?
Stop being two-faced and stop being a hypocrite, you are not endearing yourself to the homosexual community or anyone else by trying to play the politically correct
card on a subject you have no real right to discuss regarding what others, are or are not.
 

JJ50

Well-Known Member
As long as people take sensible precautions, as many gays do, gay sex isn't a problem. It is bigots who look for problems. There are a lot of gay Christians in this world, I bet they aren't celibate.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
You are making another claim about me without providing any evidence again.[/quoite]

Did I? Reread that. It appears that you did not understand that part of the post. By the way I see that you are back to using a practice that is rude at the very least and in this case dishonest since you made a false claim about me and justified it by quoting out of context.

I challenge you to provide an example of where I broke up a post in order to be dishonest.

LOL!! You just did.

Of course we could not simply come to different conclusions based on the same evidence.



I either need to be confused or a liar in order to believe something different than you do.


You don't see how ridiculous that position is?

In this case, yes. That is a fact. But "need" is the wrong word to use and it was improper of you to use it, Perhaps once again dishonest. One cannot be both honest and informed when it comes to creationism. That is a fact. When all of the evidence out there only supports one concept then to pretend that one can interpret it in a different manner is either due to ignorance or dishonesty.

I recall asking you time and time again to present this "evidence" that provse the things you claim, but you never did.

You are almost certainly wrong there. What probably happened is that evidence was given and you were once again either dishonest or ignorant in regards to it. When that happens to often I assume that the person is merely ignorant and offer to go over the concept of evidence. You do not seem to understand what is and what is not evidence. We need to discuss that first so that you will recognize evidence when it is presented to you. This is not "my" definition of evidence. It is a concept that is very helpful to learn. Would you like to discuss the nature of evidence?


There is also no evidence that disproves them.

Sorry, that is a shifting of the burden of proof. Again, not an honest way to debate. There is no evidence that disproves that a word was made by a Fantabulous Flatulent Fuchsia Fairy either. So why not believe that?

And I'll remind you again that you have never once presented any evidence that supports your claims.

And I will remind you again that this is false and that you do not appear to understand the nature of evidence. Repeating false claims is not honest.

Yes, that question was pointless.

No, it was not pointless. Just because a point went flying over your head does not make it pointless Your belief is akin to a belief in a FFFF. By the way, that was also a dodge on your part.

How is that?

I do not believe that God has lied.

You seem to be confused.[/quote]

See, you are confused. You do believe that God lied, you simply do not realize it. Once again this all relies on the ability to understand the concept of evidence. The evidence is so clear and so plentiful that if your myths are true then your God had to plant all sorts of false evidence. The existence of the evidence, which again only supports one side, tells us that the world as we see it is the result of natural processes. By claiming that the myths of the Bible are true you would need your god to plant false evidence meaning that you are claiming that your god lied by doing so. An ignorance of what is and what is not evidence is all that protects you.

The evidence that you are incapable of ever sharing?

Once again it is rather apparent that you do not understand the concept of evidence. If you refuse to learn what and what is not evidence you will only complain about a lack of evidence. Learn the basics first and then you can demand evidence. Until then it is hypocritical to demand it.

God has not kept anything hidden from you.


Everything you need to know in order to become a witness of spiritual things is contained in the scriptures.

It has been your own ineptitude that caused these things to remain hidden to you.

Now that is a false claim. You really need to watch yourself. Christians like you tend to have an "inept" approach to the Bible. Don't blame others for your sins. Your version of god has kept himself hidden from me and countless others like me. We could discuss that too if you like. Do you think that you can learn how to focus on one subject at a time and respond properly?


When did I do this?

In the post that I responded to.

I do not hate anyone.

Who are you claiming that I hate?

I am confident.


It is rather clear that you hate homosexuals. You try to justify your hatred with your book of myths, but like it or not that still is hatred on your part. And you may be "confident" but that is merely because you have fooled yourself. A person without hate could see the flaws in the Bible. A book cannot be both a book of hate and a book of love at the same time. If you read it and understood it you would see that it shows the advancement of the Hebrews from an aggressive and immoral belligerent tribal people to the beginnings of a civilized people. Instead you apply an overly simplistic interpretation of it and will probably even deny that it says what it clearly says at times since it goes against your own beliefs. The religious often make that mistake when it comes to their holy books. They think it says what they want it to say rather than what it actually says.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Are all your "pet peeves" things you are too scared to consider?
When someone is either ignorant or dishonest it does get to be a bit annoying at times. For you to use the word "assume" for something that you do not understand is dishonest whether you like it or not. I am sure that it has been explained to you that scientists are not allowed to assume. Whenever you use the word "assume" you also take on a huge burden of proof. You need to be able to demonstrate that there was an assumption. When you do not understand the science involved that is all but an impossibility.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
Hi Skwim,
A well thought out and presented post regarding anul sex. But the fact is it is dangerous to have anul sex and it can cause other problems for both men and women.
Almost any physical activity can be dangerous if care and precautions aren't exercised. Anal sex simply requires different care than others. :shrug:

Nerve endings are a source of warning providing pain when something not right.
SOME nerve endings. Not All of them---think of the clitoris whose sole function is to produce pleasure through the stimulation of sexually responsive nerve endings. In the case of those in question here in the anal sphincter, they too produce pleasure, not pain.

In males or females the anus had a purpose to pass waste from the human body. Nerve endings essential it tells us when something is wrong like having piles/haemorrhoids and other conditions.
Except for the sexually responsive nerve endings.

I think we know each part of the human body has a purpose and sometimes things go wrong. So much disease can be caused by anal sex. it isn't safe.
As I said, almost any physical activity can be dangerous if care and precautions aren't exercised. Anal sex simply requires different care than others. Keep in mind that anal sex is no longer considered a male homosexual activity, but a fairly common one between opposite sexes. If there truly were the dangers you imply, anal sex would not continue to be practiced by over 1/3 of the population, a percentage figure that keeps growing.


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Prestor John

Well-Known Member
Cities were quite small in Palestine... Like Jerusalem at the time of David perhaps 800 people.
There is a lot of time between Abraham and David. Sodom and Jerusalem.
It was desolate at the time of Abraham and Lot.
What was desolate?

Where was the "plain of Jordan"?

Was this plain where Sodom and Gomorrah were located?
Oh that's just some creationists who claimed the oceans were salt water.
But, the oceans are salt water....
 

RESOLUTION

Active Member
Almost any physical activity can be dangerous if care and precautions aren't exercised. Anal sex simply requires different care than others. :shrug:


SOME nerve endings. Not All of them---think of the clitoris whose sole function is to produce pleasure through the stimulation of sexually responsive nerve endings. In the case of those in question here in the anal sphincter, they too produce pleasure, not pain.


Except for the sexually responsive nerve endings.


As I said, almost any physical activity can be dangerous if care and precautions aren't exercised. Anal sex simply requires different care than others. Keep in mind that anal sex is no longer considered a male homosexual activity, but a fairly common one between opposite sexes. If there truly were the dangers you imply, anal sex would not continue to be practiced by over 1/3 of the population, a percentage figure that keeps growing.


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Please send copy of site where you took these study figures from and the percentage of adults both male and female who took part in the above. If Nuns and other celibate religious orders had taken part what would those figures be? Truth is a table of the above can be produced by selecting the people you want to take part and so get the figures you want. It means nothing in the great scheme of things.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
Please send copy of site where you took these study figures from and the percentage of adults both male and female who took part in the above. If Nuns and other celibate religious orders had taken part what would those figures be? Truth is a table of the above can be produced by selecting the people you want to take part and so get the figures you want. It means nothing in the great scheme of things.

https://www.researchgate.net/public...d_Women_15-44_Years_of_Age_United_States_2002

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