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"SC Police Hastily Scratch “Lord” and “Matthew 5:9” Off Monument...."

Skwim

Veteran Member
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And well they should have.


"Earlier this month, the Tega Cay Women’s Club in South Carolina gifted the local police department with a large stone that had the department’s logo painted on it.

TegaCayMonument-792x1024.png

Seems fine… until you realize the bottom of that design has the words “Matthew 5:9,” the Bible verse that includes the phrase “Blessed are the peacemakers.”

On the back of that stone is what’s known the “Police Officer’s Prayer,” which calls on the “Lord” to give officers courage, strength, and continued dedication to the job.

Bottom line: The police department installed a Christian monument outside the building. It’s absolutely illegal, and we know that because a similar monument referencing Islam or atheism or Satanism would never be permitted there.

Complaints flowed into the station as soon as that stone went up, and city officials agreed that this promotion of Christianity would lead to a lawsuit that they would inevitably lose.

“We talked to our attorney about it and he said they’re probably going to sue you,” said Mayor David O’Neal, also a campaign leader for U.S. Congressman Ralph Norman in past runs. “He said we’d have to hire a lawyer and it might cost $30,000 to $50,000 to fight it, or you can just move the offensive language.”

But instead of just removing the monument, they handled this the worst possible way: by literally crossing out the words “Lord” and “Matthew 5:9.”

LordTegaCay-1024x567.png

That move just angered conservatives even more.

S.C. State Rep. Bruce Bryant, R-York, was outraged the Biblical verse was removed. Bryant retired as York County Sheriff in 2017 after 20 years in office and 44 years in law enforcement.
“To say I am disappointed is an understatement,” Bryant said. “Law enforcement is a calling, a calling for men and women by God to protect the communities they serve. These principles of courage and faith are what this great state and nation were founded upon.”

Notice how Bryant lied there. Courage is no doubt an important characteristic for law enforcement officials. But faith is not. Christianity is definitely not. Believing in the Jesus myth is not a prerequisite to being a cop. To pretend otherwise is an insult to all the men and women who aren’t Christians but risk their lives for the community anyway."
source


One has to marvel at just how clueless some people can be. Will they never learn? OR, is it they know, but "To hell with the law. Let's slip Christianity into secular society wherever we can on the off chance we'll get away with it."

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Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
One has to marvel at just how clueless some people can be. Will they never learn? OR, is it they know, but "To hell with the law. Let's slip Christianity into secular society wherever we can on the off chance we'll get away with it."

Probably more concerned with the lives lost in police work than the fee fees of secularist cry babies.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Probably more concerned with the lives lost in police work than the fee fees of secularist cry babies.
Must be great to be a white, male, heterosexual, Christian in the USA.
You don't have to care about the law or the "fee fees" of people who you don't like.

Just do whatever you want and if you have to, just do it again. Nobody's gonna stop you.
Tom
 

The Reverend Bob

Fart Machine and Beastmaster
Must be great to be a white, male, heterosexual, Christian in the USA.
You don't have to care about the law or the "fee fees" of people who you don't like.

Just do whatever you want and if you have to, just do it again. Nobody's gonna stop you.
Tom
Was it actually causing injury?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
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And well they should have.


"Earlier this month, the Tega Cay Women’s Club in South Carolina gifted the local police department with a large stone that had the department’s logo painted on it.

TegaCayMonument-792x1024.png
Seems fine… until you realize the bottom of that design has the words “Matthew 5:9,” the Bible verse that includes the phrase “Blessed are the peacemakers.”

On the back of that stone is what’s known the “Police Officer’s Prayer,” which calls on the “Lord” to give officers courage, strength, and continued dedication to the job.

Bottom line: The police department installed a Christian monument outside the building. It’s absolutely illegal, and we know that because a similar monument referencing Islam or atheism or Satanism would never be permitted there.

Complaints flowed into the station as soon as that stone went up, and city officials agreed that this promotion of Christianity would lead to a lawsuit that they would inevitably lose.

“We talked to our attorney about it and he said they’re probably going to sue you,” said Mayor David O’Neal, also a campaign leader for U.S. Congressman Ralph Norman in past runs. “He said we’d have to hire a lawyer and it might cost $30,000 to $50,000 to fight it, or you can just move the offensive language.”
But instead of just removing the monument, they handled this the worst possible way: by literally crossing out the words “Lord” and “Matthew 5:9.”
LordTegaCay-1024x567.png
That move just angered conservatives even more.

S.C. State Rep. Bruce Bryant, R-York, was outraged the Biblical verse was removed. Bryant retired as York County Sheriff in 2017 after 20 years in office and 44 years in law enforcement.
“To say I am disappointed is an understatement,” Bryant said. “Law enforcement is a calling, a calling for men and women by God to protect the communities they serve. These principles of courage and faith are what this great state and nation were founded upon.”
Notice how Bryant lied there. Courage is no doubt an important characteristic for law enforcement officials. But faith is not. Christianity is definitely not. Believing in the Jesus myth is not a prerequisite to being a cop. To pretend otherwise is an insult to all the men and women who aren’t Christians but risk their lives for the community anyway."
source
One has to marvel at just how clueless some people can be. Will they never learn? OR, is it they know, but "To hell with the law. Let's slip Christianity into secular society wherever we can on the off chance we'll get away with it."

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I think the monument was all right. It was a gift.

They just scratched off the words that would have prevented a lawsuit and all seems pretty good. It was a good move I think to do that.

Christians would know what it meant and others probably wouldn't even care. It is a gifted monument to honor the police department which is pretty impressive if a community is comfortable with its police force this day and age.
 

The Reverend Bob

Fart Machine and Beastmaster
Currently on display at the Metropolitan Museum of Art:

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Permanent display at the Boston Public Library:

9995962ee855de57cba4c2b48d90cd5b.jpg


Displayed at the Brooklyn Museum:

00.159.214_PS2.jpg


All of these are displayed in public property that is funded by the public.
Should they be removed?

P.S. How the baby Jesus got a hold of a red crayon back then is beyond me.
 
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Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
American “peacemakers” are often more heavily armed than the military, and kill almost as many people.
I guess it depends where you live. The police around here wear bulletproof vests but they don't wear Kevlar helmets or anything.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Probably more concerned with the lives lost in police work than the fee fees of secularist cry babies.
"Secularist cry babies" like the founding fathers who penned the Constitution? The article made it clear whose fee fees were really hurt. If they were more concerned about lives as you claim then they wouldn't be wasting time pushing and defending unconstitutional religious propaganda in the first place.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
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And well they should have.


"Earlier this month, the Tega Cay Women’s Club in South Carolina gifted the local police department with a large stone that had the department’s logo painted on it.

TegaCayMonument-792x1024.png
Seems fine… until you realize the bottom of that design has the words “Matthew 5:9,” the Bible verse that includes the phrase “Blessed are the peacemakers.”

On the back of that stone is what’s known the “Police Officer’s Prayer,” which calls on the “Lord” to give officers courage, strength, and continued dedication to the job.

Bottom line: The police department installed a Christian monument outside the building. It’s absolutely illegal, and we know that because a similar monument referencing Islam or atheism or Satanism would never be permitted there.

Complaints flowed into the station as soon as that stone went up, and city officials agreed that this promotion of Christianity would lead to a lawsuit that they would inevitably lose.

“We talked to our attorney about it and he said they’re probably going to sue you,” said Mayor David O’Neal, also a campaign leader for U.S. Congressman Ralph Norman in past runs. “He said we’d have to hire a lawyer and it might cost $30,000 to $50,000 to fight it, or you can just move the offensive language.”
But instead of just removing the monument, they handled this the worst possible way: by literally crossing out the words “Lord” and “Matthew 5:9.”
LordTegaCay-1024x567.png
That move just angered conservatives even more.

S.C. State Rep. Bruce Bryant, R-York, was outraged the Biblical verse was removed. Bryant retired as York County Sheriff in 2017 after 20 years in office and 44 years in law enforcement.
“To say I am disappointed is an understatement,” Bryant said. “Law enforcement is a calling, a calling for men and women by God to protect the communities they serve. These principles of courage and faith are what this great state and nation were founded upon.”
Notice how Bryant lied there. Courage is no doubt an important characteristic for law enforcement officials. But faith is not. Christianity is definitely not. Believing in the Jesus myth is not a prerequisite to being a cop. To pretend otherwise is an insult to all the men and women who aren’t Christians but risk their lives for the community anyway."
source

One has to marvel at just how clueless some people can be. Will they never learn? OR, is it they know, but "To hell with the law. Let's slip Christianity into secular society wherever we can on the off chance we'll get away with it."

.


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I wonder if they could sell that little corner of the lawn to the Tega Cay Women’s Club?
Then it would no longer be public land.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Currently on display at the Metropolitan Museum of Art:

h5_60.173.jpg


Permanent display at the Boston Public Library:

9995962ee855de57cba4c2b48d90cd5b.jpg


Displayed at the Brooklyn Museum:

00.159.214_PS2.jpg


All of these are displayed in public property that is funded by the public.
Should they be removed?

P.S. How the baby Jesus got a hold of a red crayon back then is beyond me.
A completely different purpose and context. We're talking about the establishment clause.
 
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