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'They 'are beginning to accuse President Trump over Iran

oldbadger

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
Landon Caeli said:
From 2017, over a year before Trumps withdrawal from the Iran deal:

Iran is violating the deal

It is well established that Tehran has consistently denied IAEA inspectors access to military sites and other research locations. This is in direct contravention to the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) and bipartisan legislation set out by Congress, which compels the president to verify that "Iran is transparently, verifiably, and fully implementing the agreement."
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So you didn't take any notice of @columbus 's post?

Here it is:-
Are you aware that the Republicans promised to renege on the deal before it was even finished? Making it into a partisan football?
And Trump took that ball and ran with it, Putin cheering him on?
Tom
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oldbadger

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
Landon Caeli said:
ALSO FROM THE 2017 ARTICLE:

"To be sure, revelations about Iran testing the boundaries of the JCPOA and crossing the line into violation are not new. While many of these violations have not been disclosed by the previous U.S. administration, or by the IAEA, there is a myriad of information and analysis suggesting that Iran has previously failed to comply with several provisions of the JCPOA. It has twice been revealed that Iran exceeded the cap on heavy water mandated by the agreement, and has also refused to allow testing of its carbon fiber acquired before the deal was implemented. Moreover, it has also been reported that Tehran has found new ways to conduct additional mechanical testing of centrifuges, in clear violation of the JCPOA."
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But is it truthful, or propaganda?
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oldbadger

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
Landon Caeli said:
Why are you bringing mathematics into this? Are you being intellectually deceitful? Or perhaps experiencing cognitive dissonance, resulting in confusion?
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But have the Republicans been deceitful?
Was Trump's highly confrontational action against Iran just?

Folks are saying he's a high-conflict guy, you know.
 
oldbadger

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
Landon Caeli said:
That's because Iran was breaking the deal as it was being written. And continued to, and the democrats desired to overlook that, because they wanted Obama to be known as the 'peace keeper'.
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Well, the EU countries did not agree with that, did they?

The US pulled out of the agreement all alone.
 
oldbadger

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
Shad said:
The two UK registered tankers Iran took over. Flying a national flag is a registration contract. It does not reflect crew nor even ownership. A lot of companies register with neutrals to avoid geo-political spats. Some register with a power be it protection or for financial reasons.

Iran seizes British tanker in Strait of Hormuz
Iran stokes Gulf tensions by seizing two British-linked oil tankers
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The first tanker was Panamanian registered. It was released.
The second tanker was a Brit Stena-line tanker.

The week before we seized an Iranian tanker off Gibraltar at US request, a totally stupid thing for us to do, and as our recently retired Fleet-Admial pointed out on television, we then didn't have the brains to deter Brit ships from going close to Iranian waters. Daft or what?

We could have avoided all of that.

Somebody is stoking the fires.
 
oldbadger

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
Enoch07

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
oldbadger said:
OMG. Huff-post?
You mean to say that this is your Primary evidence?
:facepalm:
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Don't be a drama queen. There is nothing wrong with that source. It's not Fox News for crying out loud! :D

Now set your bias aside, and aborb some facts and reality.
 
Brickjectivity

Brickjectivity

wind and rain touch not this brain
Staff member
Premium Member
oldbadger said:
Complicated ......
Yes, we have made some really daft decisions about this over recent weeks.
And we seem to need an Election, which just complicates things more.
But it does appear as very easy to find loads of blame to dump on President Trump.

He sure seems to be an international troll.
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Find out which generals were against the move to capture the tanker and put them into government.
 
Curious George

Curious George

Veteran Member
Landon Caeli said:
Why are you bringing mathematics into this? Are you being intellectually deceitful? Or perhaps experiencing cognitive dissonance, resulting in confusion?
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Lol, i am sorry you did not understand:
Conspiracy does not solely mean made-up.

You are using the word wrong. The word for which you are looking is "speculative" or "unsubstantiated."

However, let us not pretend it is a stretch to suggest that Trump's move was to spite Obama.
 
Cooky

Cooky

Veteran Member
Curious George said:
However, let us not pretend it is a stretch to suggest that Trump's move was to spite Obama.
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Of course it's a stretch. Trump has no beef with Obama. Trump is a businessman, who claims to be an expert at making deals. So more likely he saw the Iran deal as not a good one.

...But even I don't claim that likely scenario to be fact, even though it's at least 10 times more logical.
 
Cooky

Cooky

Veteran Member
pcarl said:
What world do you live in?
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I suppose you have some 'evidence' that Trump actively seeks out to destroy what Obama did over some personal "spite"..?

...For what purpose would a non-establishment business man feel the need to "spite" Obama?

As if it should be so obvious that he would. :rolleyes:
 
oldbadger

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
Enoch07 said:
Don't be a drama queen. There is nothing wrong with that source. It's not Fox News for crying out loud! :D

Now set your bias aside, and aborb some facts and reality.
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It's just strange that no other news media reported this.

And now I learn that Panam,a has deflagged the Riah after all this. It seems that Panama feels that Iran might have been right in its actions. :shrug:

Here you are......... a 'cut' from the papers this morning.:-

Panama’s maritime authority has begun the process of withdrawing the registration of the oil tanker MT Riah, which ended up in Iranian waters after it disappeared from ship tracking maps in the strait of Hormuz on 14 July.
Panama began the flag-withdrawal process on Friday after an investigation determined the tanker had “deliberately violated international regulations” by not reporting any unusual situation, the authority said in a statement.
“We roundly condemn the use of Panamanian flagged ships for illicit activities,” it said.
 
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