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'They 'are beginning to accuse President Trump over Iran

Cooky

Cooky

Veteran Member
columbus said:
Are you aware that the Republicans promised to renege on the deal before it was even finished? Making it into a partisan football?
And Trump took that ball and ran with it, Putin cheering him on?
Tom
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That's because Iran was breaking the deal as it was being written. And continued to, and the democrats desired to overlook that, because they wanted Obama to be known as the 'peace keeper'.
 
Shad

Shad

Veteran Member
columbus said:
Are you aware that the Republicans promised to renege on the deal before it was even finished? Making it into a partisan football?
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Yah as they were against the deal. Obama couldn't get it ratified so he tried to EO his agenda into action. He bet on Hillary winning thus maintain his EO empire. Just because Obama wanted something does not mean he gets it.

And Trump took that ball and ran with it, Putin cheering him on?
Tom
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Lifting all sanctions on Iran was a mistake, made by Obama.
 
leov

leov

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columbus said:
Not everyone has the sort of short term thinking that USonians do.

Unless someone invents solar powered fighter jets or wind powered warships, whoever controls the Gulf oil region will have a huge strategic advantage in the upcoming war. At the moment, the USA has that kind of strategic advantage. We are the dominant regional power.
But neither Russia nor China want that, and that's why Iran is more likely to partner with them than the USA(who have been attacking Iran for decades).
You might think that this is still the 80s, but it isn't.
Tom
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US is continuation of Roman Empire that was at war with Persia for centuries.
 
Twilight Hue

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
oldbadger said:
It started slowly.
But it's gatheriong pace.
As the Iran crisis grows many News bulletins (here) about Iran now begin with (something like):-
'The Crisis that President Trump started when he pulled the USA out of the agreement with Iran'
And it's building......... and building.......

The fact that the UK was prepared to arrest an Iranian Oil Tanker in Brit wayers off Gibralter (for the US?) was our own stupidity.
The fact that we did not immediately deter all British Flagged ships from going near Iranian waters was our own stupidity.

But now it's building higher and higher, and as it does, folks over here need to look to blame somebody for triggering what could possibly be a most dreadful situation ...... blooming.

And I recently heard (on radio) a politician point ouit that President Trump, in spite, busted the Iran-deal because it was an initiative of the 'Obama government'.

And so, the nastier this gets, so the louder the shouts of blame........

Opinions? Responses?
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Yep , as far as a certain group of people are concerned, it's Trump's fault even before he became president.
 
C

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Landon Caeli said:
It qualifies as conspiratorial, yes it does.
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No it doesn't.
The USA has been attacking Iran for decades. Obama finally started a path to peace.
The Republicans sabotaged it before it was even finalized.
Trump promised to reignite conflict if he got elected, and he did(not get elected, he came in second in the election). Now the conflict is a big problem.

There's no hidden conspiracy here. The Republicans have been starting conflicts with Iran since the 70s. But Iran is a lot stronger than it was then and the USA is a lot weaker.

This isn't the 80s any more!
Tom
 
C

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Nowhere Man said:
Yep , as far as a certain group of people are concerned, it's Trump's fault even before he became president.
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Trump promised this during his campaign.
But it isn't exactly his fault.

Bush and the Republicans have been itching to start another war with Iran since their boy Saddam failed in the 80s.
Now they've got it.
Tom
 
Audie

Audie

Veteran Member
oldbadger said:
Nope.
Overlooking the lies is what's known as naive.
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And changing the subject with an irrelevant response
is known as? Dont be embarrassed to reveal your
disability here. You are among friends!
 
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Martin

Martin

Spam, wonderful spam (bloody vikings!)
Audie said:
As a brit, and with a fair history of brit
political stupidity to reference, was not
your churchill accused of trying to start
something with that german guy?
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We've always had a lot of trouble with those Europeans.
 
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