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Fear of homosexuality

Sand Dancer

Sand Dancer

Crazy Cat Lady
Wasp said:
Why are some of those who believe homosexuality is a sin so afraid of it?

Homosexuality in itself isn't a sin according to - as far as I am aware - any religion, so if we just think about homosexuality in general as a topic or homosexuals as a topic, why does it terrify some people so much?

It isn't the biggest sin, the most harmful sin, the most likely sin... It's one among others.

Where does the extreme fear come from and how could it be reduced among people who belive homosexuality is a sin, if we exclude the idea that the sin could be removed from the list or the people could become less religious on that issue.

It is possible to consider it a sin and even condemn it without feeling extreme fear, discomfort, frustration or anger when the topic is approached.
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In the Bible, usually idol worship or promiscuity is the issue. People don't often realize that whatever non Hebrews did in the OT, it was a sin or abomination. They were to stay separate from the other religions' folks or Yahweh would not bless them.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Wasp said:
Statistically unlikely. And not entirely logical either.
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Why do you claim that? Are you unaware that there are studies that show a tie between homophobia and latent homosexuality? it is not hard core "proof" bu it does not one think about why some people get rather heated about the topic. I can understand why gay people would get mad about people that accuse them of all sorts of evils, but I cannot see why a purported straight person should get so excited about what homosexual people do in the privacy of their own homes.
 
David T

David T

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Wasp said:
Why are some of those who believe homosexuality is a sin so afraid of it?

Homosexuality in itself isn't a sin according to - as far as I am aware - any religion, so if we just think about homosexuality in general as a topic or homosexuals as a topic, why does it terrify some people so much?

It isn't the biggest sin, the most harmful sin, the most likely sin... It's one among others.

Where does the extreme fear come from and how could it be reduced among people who belive homosexuality is a sin, if we exclude the idea that the sin could be removed from the list or the people could become less religious on that issue.

It is possible to consider it a sin and even condemn it without feeling extreme fear, discomfort, frustration or anger when the topic is approached.
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Bisexuals. They are always undecided. Apparently agnostics of sexuality.
 
dfnj

dfnj

Well-Known Member
Jesus is a man. Christian men love Jesus, that is, a male god. Therefore, Christianity is in a way a homosexual religion because of its male on male worship.

It seems to me God is clearly a woman. No man can create something so damn beautiful as a woman. I tend to prefer female base religions. Women's reproductive parts are far more stronger than male reproductive parts. Women are built to take punishment. I also have found women are way more stronger than men when it comes to emotions and dealing with difficult issues. Men are weaker than women because they are quick to become angry, do not share well, and are generally not as pretty as women. I am not interested in worshiping a selfish angry God who does not share in the blessings of existence. Women's breasts are clearly evidence for the existence of God in my opinion. Nothing is more perfect or more beautiful.

 
W

Wasp

Active Member
Audie said:
Haha. It happens to be true, you just made up that
thing about "statistics". Admit it; you made it up.

And, logical? When was human psychology
logical?
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How would you know it to be true? You just made that up.

What I mean is that if you think about the amount of gay people and from those the approximate of honest gays and from those the dishonest but self aware and accepting, and from those the ones living in denial, and from those the ones both in denial and aggressive toward other gays... I think the number goes pretty low in the end.
 
dfnj

dfnj

Well-Known Member
When I was in college, I took a class on Human Sexuality. It was the most popular class on campus. During one of the lectures they had a homosexual come in and talk to the class. He did not talk with lisp or anything. You could not tell this guy was homosexual in any way. He look as normal as anyone working on Wall Street. He told a story when he was young he just "knew" he was different. He said when he looked at Playboy magazine he would not be sexually aroused. He claimed he was just wired differently. He claimed he was just born this way and he had no choice about who he was attracted to. This is what he said. If this is true, he has no choice, then how can it be a sin if the guy is this way because of an act of God?
 
Audie

Audie

Veteran Member
Wasp said:
How would you know it to be true? You just made that up.

What I mean is that if you think about the amount of gay people and from those the approximate of honest gays and from those the dishonest but self aware and accepting, and from those the ones living in denial, and from those the ones both in denial and aggressive toward other gays... I think the number goes pretty low in the end.
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You are not very original, just copying my words,
"made it up"
Not very appropriate either, as you DID just make
up your "stats" claim, and dont, I notice,even
attempt to deny it. :D I didnt bother asking
"How do you know" because it was obvious you
made it up.

Now you ask me how I know, the add a silly falsehood
that I made it up (to add to your stats falsehood)

Homophobes Might Be Hidden Homosexuals

Are Homophobic People Really Gay and Not Accepting It?

The Weird Science of Homophobes Who Turn Out to Be Gay

You want more? I dont need to make things up, the
way you do.
 
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Samael_Khan

Samael_Khan

Goosebender
Wasp said:
Why are some of those who believe homosexuality is a sin so afraid of it?

Homosexuality in itself isn't a sin according to - as far as I am aware - any religion, so if we just think about homosexuality in general as a topic or homosexuals as a topic, why does it terrify some people so much?

It isn't the biggest sin, the most harmful sin, the most likely sin... It's one among others.

Where does the extreme fear come from and how could it be reduced among people who belive homosexuality is a sin, if we exclude the idea that the sin could be removed from the list or the people could become less religious on that issue.

It is possible to consider it a sin and even condemn it without feeling extreme fear, discomfort, frustration or anger when the topic is approached.
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I think it is because it makes them uncomfortable.

Men are attracted to certain traits in women, such as femininity. Now imagine if men portray that feminity but are actually men. Some men might get confused because the man has attractive qualities but also disgusting male physical qualities so it would be weird. Or they could be gay themselves and in denial.

When I was a Christian, I did view it as a sin and condemn it without having those feelings you mentioned because I just saw it as something God disagreed with, which he has a right to as their creator. The idea that it is a sin is from his perspective. Homosexuality doesn't hurt anyone in and of itself. Therefore it never affected me and I was indifferent about it.
 
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Wasp

Active Member
Israel Khan said:
The idea that it is a sin is from his perspective. Homosexuality doesn't hurt anyone in and of itself.
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That's how I look at it. But some I guess feel it's their duty to implement that "God's law".

Although I can see how it may hurt the society in some ways etc. But for any individual, unless something unusual happens, it shouldn't pose a problem.
 
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Wasp

Active Member
Subduction Zone said:
Why do you claim that? Are you unaware that there are studies that show a tie between homophobia and latent homosexuality? it is not hard core "proof" bu it does not one think about why some people get rather heated about the topic. I can understand why gay people would get mad about people that accuse them of all sorts of evils, but I cannot see why a purported straight person should get so excited about what homosexual people do in the privacy of their own homes.
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Then why is it that the attitudes of those living in certain areas, such as some parts of the middle east where being gay is prohibited, are more often as described in the OP? Are there more gay people there? Unlikely - they've been taught to think so.

Just as elsewhere kids are taught to think being gay is okay. If every kid in the world was told being gay is absolutely not okay and you deserve to die for it - guaranteed, there would be a whole lot more "gay people" in the world, don't you think?
 
Samael_Khan

Samael_Khan

Goosebender
Wasp said:
That's how I look at it. But some I guess feel it's their duty to implement that "God's law".

Although I can see how it may hurt the society in some ways etc. But for any individual, unless something unusual happens, it shouldn't pose a problem.
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I think culture also plays a role. For instance, regardless of religion, many African cultures are dead against homosexuality. They will sometimes kill them.

The below article shows that in most of Africa and the Middle East homosexuality is a crime.:

Where being gay is illegal around world - CNN
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Wasp said:
Then why is it that the attitudes of those living in certain areas, such as some parts of the middle east where being gay is prohibited, are more often as described in the OP? Are there more gay people there? Unlikely - they've been taught to think so.

Just as elsewhere kids are taught to think being gay is okay. If every kid in the world was told being gay is absolutely not okay and you deserve to die for it - guaranteed, there would be a whole lot more "gay people" in the world, don't you think?
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There probably just as many people that are gay in those countries as other ones. They simply have to hide who they are.
 
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