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Are taxes against God's will?

Stevicus

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I came across this story in the news feed: Family who argued taxes 'against God's will' ordered to pay $2.3m bill

Christian missionaries Fanny Alida Beerepoot and her brother Rembertus Cornelis Beerepoot faced the Supreme Court of Tasmania on Wednesday after they both failed to pay an estimated $930,000 in income tax and other charges in 2017.

Solicitor Stephen Linden told the court the pair had been served two notices of their debt and had failed to lodge their tax returns.

In their submissions, Mr Beerepoot said Australian taxation law was contrary to the law of "Almighty God".

"We believe that the constitution affirms the fact that the Commonwealth resides within the jurisdiction of the law of the Almighty God and the law of the Almighty God is the supreme law of this land," he told the court.

It seems like a shameless ploy to get out of paying taxes, but I was wondering: Is there an actual theological argument that would support this?

I've heard some arguments that people shouldn't pay taxes if it's used for war or other violence, even if it means going to prison over it.

If they had $930,000 in unpaid taxes, then they must have sizable assets. I wonder how that fits into "God's will."
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
I came across this story in the news feed: Family who argued taxes 'against God's will' ordered to pay $2.3m bill



It seems like a shameless ploy to get out of paying taxes, but I was wondering: Is there an actual theological argument that would support this?

I've heard some arguments that people shouldn't pay taxes if it's used for war or other violence, even if it means going to prison over it.

If they had $930,000 in unpaid taxes, then they must have sizable assets. I wonder how that fits into "God's will."
Didn't creationist Kent Hovind try something like that to get out of paying his taxes and ended up in jail.
 

Terry Sampson

Well-Known Member
(a) By inference, I say: "No, taxes are not against God's will." My source: 1 Samuel 8
  • 10 Samuel told all the words of the Lord to the people who were asking him for a king.
  • 11 He said, “This is what the king who will reign over you will claim as his rights: He will take your sons and make them serve with his chariots and horses, and they will run in front of his chariots.
  • 12 Some he will assign to be commanders of thousands and commanders of fifties, and others to plow his ground and reap his harvest, and still others to make weapons of war and equipment for his chariots.
  • 13 He will take your daughters to be perfumers and cooks and bakers.
  • 14 He will take the best of your fields and vineyards and olive groves and give them to his attendants.
  • 15 He will take a tenth of your grain and of your vintage and give it to his officials and attendants.
  • 16 Your male and female servants and the best of your cattle and donkeys he will take for his own use.
  • 17 He will take a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves will become his slaves.
  • 18 When that day comes, you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, but the Lord will not answer you in that day.”
(b) By Paul's instruction: Romans 13:
  • 7 Render to all what is due them: tax to whom tax is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honor to whom honor.
 

Neutral Name

Active Member
(a) By inference, I say: "No, taxes are not against God's will." My source: 1 Samuel 8
  • 10 Samuel told all the words of the Lord to the people who were asking him for a king.
  • 11 He said, “This is what the king who will reign over you will claim as his rights: He will take your sons and make them serve with his chariots and horses, and they will run in front of his chariots.
  • 12 Some he will assign to be commanders of thousands and commanders of fifties, and others to plow his ground and reap his harvest, and still others to make weapons of war and equipment for his chariots.
  • 13 He will take your daughters to be perfumers and cooks and bakers.
  • 14 He will take the best of your fields and vineyards and olive groves and give them to his attendants.
  • 15 He will take a tenth of your grain and of your vintage and give it to his officials and attendants.
  • 16 Your male and female servants and the best of your cattle and donkeys he will take for his own use.
  • 17 He will take a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves will become his slaves.
  • 18 When that day comes, you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, but the Lord will not answer you in that day.”
(b) By Paul's instruction: Romans 13:
  • 7 Render to all what is due them: tax to whom tax is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honor to whom honor.

Absolutely.
 

Neutral Name

Active Member
I came across this story in the news feed: Family who argued taxes 'against God's will' ordered to pay $2.3m bill

The Bible says to pay your taxes.

It seems like a shameless ploy to get out of paying taxes, but I was wondering: Is there an actual theological argument that would support this?

I've heard some arguments that people shouldn't pay taxes if it's used for war or other violence, even if it means going to prison over it.

If they had $930,000 in unpaid taxes, then they must have sizable assets. I wonder how that fits into "God's will."
 

leov

Well-Known Member
I came across this story in the news feed: Family who argued taxes 'against God's will' ordered to pay $2.3m bill



It seems like a shameless ploy to get out of paying taxes, but I was wondering: Is there an actual theological argument that would support this?

I've heard some arguments that people shouldn't pay taxes if it's used for war or other violence, even if it means going to prison over it.

If they had $930,000 in unpaid taxes, then they must have sizable assets. I wonder how that fits into "God's will."
It is not.
 

David T

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Premium Member
I came across this story in the news feed: Family who argued taxes 'against God's will' ordered to pay $2.3m bill



It seems like a shameless ploy to get out of paying taxes, but I was wondering: Is there an actual theological argument that would support this?

I've heard some arguments that people shouldn't pay taxes if it's used for war or other violence, even if it means going to prison over it.

If they had $930,000 in unpaid taxes, then they must have sizable assets. I wonder how that fits into "God's will."
No theology is clear render unto ceasar what is ceasars. Not impossible to understand.

Therefore one mhst then question the entire reality they have created about the bible lile ypi are talkimg to a mental person rather than arguing with the mental patient ignore the bible. Argue with the patient well there ya go you are them nothing more. Atheists.
 

1213

Well-Known Member
...It seems like a shameless ploy to get out of paying taxes, but I was wondering: Is there an actual theological argument that would support this? ...

People were created to be free. Taxes limit freedom and therefore they are not good. Basically, they make people slaves for the one who collects taxes, if they are not voluntary. Only people who support slavery, can support mandatory taxes.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I thought God's will was something about giving "Caesar" what he wanted?
I know it is here....an acquaintance just spent a year in the pokey for tax evasion.
And apparently Australiastan also thinks it's godly to pay taxes.
 

Kelly of the Phoenix

Well-Known Member
Taxes limit freedom and therefore they are not good.
If you don't pay your light bill, the electric company has every right to cut your power as you must compensate them for their service. Taxes are just government bills. We've tried ... TWICE ... in our history to have confederacies that are absolutely pointless and it didn't work out either time. You gotta spend money to make money.
 

David T

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Premium Member
No theology is clear render unto ceasar what is ceasars. Not impossible to understand.

Therefore one mhst then question the entire reality they have created about the bible like yoi are talking to a mental person rather than arguing with the mental patient ignore the bible. Argue with the patient well there ya go you are them nothing more. Atheists.
 

David T

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I thought God's will was something about giving "Caesar" what he wanted?
I know it is here....an acquaintance just spent a year in the pokey for tax evasion.
And apparently Australiastan also thinks it's godly to pay taxes.
Armageddon is a coming this is the end time when a god forsaken atheist understands the bible better than the faith. Now the faith is so pitiful it has to have atheists teach theology just so they can have a decent conversation about not believing. Thats pitiful.
 

Erebus

Well-Known Member
I've heard some arguments that people shouldn't pay taxes if it's used for war or other violence, even if it means going to prison over it.

This is probably the view I have the most sympathy for to be honest, regardless of whether or not it's religiously motivated. While I'm not a pacifist myself, I do get why some people would have a hard time with the idea that they're funding the military.

Of course it's not always easy to tell when somebody's just trying to see what they can get away with...
 

Wandering Monk

Well-Known Member
I came across this story in the news feed: Family who argued taxes 'against God's will' ordered to pay $2.3m bill



It seems like a shameless ploy to get out of paying taxes, but I was wondering: Is there an actual theological argument that would support this?

I've heard some arguments that people shouldn't pay taxes if it's used for war or other violence, even if it means going to prison over it.

If they had $930,000 in unpaid taxes, then they must have sizable assets. I wonder how that fits into "God's will."

 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Taxes are a form of tribute. We pay them because we are not strong enough to resist.

I plan on declaring my own independence from taxes when I get the alien army I ordered from the back of Area 51 weekly so I can take over the world.

Unfortunately they were out of stock and my army is on backorder.
 
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