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Children sexually abused in border control custody.

Shad

Veteran Member
"I often stated, “One way or the other, Mexico is going to pay for the Wall.” This has never changed. Our new deal with Mexico (and Canada), the USMCA, is so much better than the old, very costly & anti-USA NAFTA deal, that just by the money we save, MEXICO IS PAYING FOR THE WALL!" -- Donald J. Trump, @realDonaldTrump tweeter, 12/13/18

Speak for yourself. Canada's leaders still sold of Canada to the US.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
These kids came with their families seeking asylum. That is not illegal.

Crossing the border is. And before you babble about the UN. The US never signed the 51 convention.

They are being held longer than they are supposed to be, in some pretty horrible conditions, in many cases.

That is because of lack of funding. ICE does not take people out of CBP as it has funding issues too. Blame Congress as they control the funding. Blame the Dems as they do not want to fund immigration systems which POTUS has full authority over.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Not to discount in any way the
possibility that things are as some
describe, or worse, but-

WHY are we not seeing a congressional
investigation?????
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
Not to discount in any way the
possibility that things are as some
describe, or worse, but-

WHY are we not seeing a congressional
investigation?????

Because a lot of the allegations are BS and the Dems know it. There is overcrowding for sure. But some of the worse allegations, like a guard telling a detainee to drink out of the toilet for instance, have been debunked. Didn't help that AOC falsified pictures of her crying in front of an empty parking lot as if she was looking at a detention facility, or that Cory Booker and some of the other Dems committed felonies by aiding people across the border, both physically and by giving advice on the net.

A congressional investigation would come back to haunt the Dems and hurt them even further.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Not all children.
The adults can leave at anytime they want though. The children's parent have to be tracked down and verified to release the children to them.
The ones under discussion in this thread are children.

The adults cannot leave anytime they want, as already mentioned.

Not our problem.
Of course it is.
And it's a big problem that the Trump administration lost a bunch of those kids instead of reuniting them with their families.

We can't, legally.
Yes, you can.

They are not being treated inhumanely.
They absolutely are.

Yes, had the parent immigrated legally through a recognized port of entry, they would not be detained. Simple as that.
Yes, they would. Trump's policies are backwards and cruel.
 

Neutral Name

Active Member
Migrant kids in Yuma report sex assault, retaliation from U.S. agents


A 15-year-old girl from Honduras described a large, bearded officer putting his hands inside her bra, pulling down her underwear and groping her as part of what was meant to be a routine pat down in front of other immigrants and officers.

The girl said "she felt embarrassed as the officer was speaking in English to other officers and laughing" ”

If this was your daughter ....

OMG! Disgusting. I already think we should start a new underground railroad for immigrants. I want to help. I can't believe how they are being treated. Our country should be so ashamed.
 

Neutral Name

Active Member
If it was my daughter I wouldn't force her to illegally cross the border into another country breaking many laws so that she could get arrested and detained to begin with. :shrug:

Yes you would if her life was in danger in your country unless you didn't love her enough to care if she was murdered.
 

Neutral Name

Active Member
Way over half of Central American migrant females get raped on their trek from Central America to the United States.

Reference source: https://www.msf.org/sites/msf.org/files/msf_forced-to-flee-central-americas-northern-triangle_e.pdf

Maybe if these Central American young ladies would stay in Central America instead of travelling across Mexico towards the United States, then they would not get raped in Mexico or near the U.S.-Mexico border.

If my daughter and I lived in a crap-hole Central American nation, then I'd want my daughter to migrant to a better place. I'd take that chance of my daughter getting raped on her way to a better life in the United States. Fortunately, my daughter and I are natural born American citizens living in the world's greatest nation.

You are so right Salavador!
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
Of course it is.

Nope

Yes, you can.

No, you cannot legally release a minor to someone that is not their parent, without their parents permission.

They absolutely are.
Nah

Yes, they would. Trump's policies are backwards and cruel.

Trump hasn't changed any law regarding the detainees. The only reason conditions are horrible is because of the crazy amount of people flooding in illegally.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
Yes you would if her life was in danger in your country unless you didn't love her enough to care if she was murdered.

Dragging your kid through 2 or more countries over 1600 miles to cross several border illegally is not a safe way to protect her.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
That might be their only option. They could be desperate. Have a heart.

Flying from Africa or Asia to Brazil, traversing through a central America to cross into America through the Mexican border are not destitute asylum seekers. They could easily have come in through a recognized port of entry and claimed legal asylum, they went the route of illegal immigration for a reason. High probability this reason is for nefarious reasons like trafficking drugs, or child sex slaves.

Being kind is one thing, allowing someone to take advantage of you while they pee in your cheerios is another.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Flying from Africa or Asia to Brazil, traversing through a central America to cross into America through the Mexican border are not destitute asylum seekers. They could easily have come in through a recognized port of entry and claimed legal asylum, they went the route of illegal immigration for a reason. High probability this reason is for nefarious reasons like trafficking drugs, or child sex slaves.

Being kind is one thing, allowing someone to take advantage of you while they pee in your cheerios is another.
Who are you talking about??
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Some simply do not seem to understand, or they don't want to understand, the conditions in the Northern Triangle Countries that are driving families to take extraordinary chances by leaving. Besides political upheaval and massive crime problems, there's a severe drought that's been taking place down there, and a great many of these people were farmers on relatively small parcels of land or who were working on larger farms.

Also, this idiotic administration in Washington cut aid to these countries, and they haven't even tried to go through different channels down there that could at least help somewhat.

BTW, one can access at least some articles that cover this on-line at the "America" (Jesuit) magazine website. I have a subscription to their magazine, and in just about every issue there's at least one article that covers some aspect of this on-going tragedy.
 
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