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The mother of Jesus

pearl

Well-Known Member
They can speak as lay people and be nuns which also sometimes allows them to speak but they cannot baptize, give communion or do many other things which men are allowed to do.

In an emergency Christian may baptize. They also distribute communion, even while not in their habit, as do lay women and men.
 

JJ50

Well-Known Member
In an emergency Christian may baptize. They also distribute communion, even while not in their habit, as do lay women and men.
It is about time the Catholic church permitted women to be priests, bishops, cardinals and popes. I reckon they couldn't do a worse job than the guys, and may even do a much better one.
 

pearl

Well-Known Member
It is about time the Catholic church permitted women to be priests, bishops, cardinals and popes. I reckon they couldn't do a worse job than the guys, and may even do a much better one.

I agree. The majority of the Church's own scholars, who were given the task of discerning from Scripture the evidence for or against the ordination of women, the majority found the evidence to be neutral, support for both positions. Ultimately, the decision was based on Tradition.
 

JJ50

Well-Known Member
That church's tradition needs flushing down the sewer, it certainly hasn't had a good track record.
 

The Anointed

Well-Known Member
When the male of the species climbed out of the primeval swamp he would have died out within five minutes without women following on behind. I have been married for 50 years next month and I still haven't managed to teach my husband, a chap with 4 degrees, how to put on a duvet cover. :rolleyes:

Well I've ben married for 55 years this month to the most wonderful woman ever created. but that has nothing to do with my post, which says that Mary the mother of Jesus was remarried to a man named Cleophas/Alpheaus the father of James the younger, when Jesus, the brother of James, was a young boy.

Now the question must be asked, "Had Joseph the son of Jacob, the step father of Jesus, who married the already pregnant Mary, died, or had he divorced Mary shortly after she had bore him a son, who was named Joseph, after his father?"
 

The Anointed

Well-Known Member
You broke God's commandments

She certainly did. Rubbishing her lord and head of the one body that the two had become, she has broken the commandment of God.

As Paul says in 1 Timothy 2: 13-15; "For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. But women will be saved through childbearing-if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety."
 

The Reverend Bob

Fart Machine and Beastmaster
She certainly did. Rubbishing her lord and head of the one body that the two had become, she has broken the commandment of God.

As Paul says in 1 Timothy 2: 13-15; "For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. But women will be saved through childbearing-if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety."
WTF. Did you take your meds?
 

The Anointed

Well-Known Member
WTF. Did you take your meds?

Why do you feel the need to spew your verbal dysentery all over this forum? I think even the moderators know what WTF means, and that by asking someone if and when they had taken medication, you are insinuating that the person in question is mentally sick.

I hope that no one reports you, for that insulting post, I would hate to see you severely reprimanded for your foul mouthed insults..
 

The Reverend Bob

Fart Machine and Beastmaster
Why do you feel the need to spew your verbal dysentery all over this forum? I think even the moderators know what WTF means, and that by asking someone if and when they had taken medication, you are insinuating that the person in question is mentally sick.

I hope that no one reports you, for that insulting post, I would hate to see you severely reprimanded for your foul mouthed insults..
Did you even read your post to me?
 

The Reverend Bob

Fart Machine and Beastmaster
As post #147, in which you accused JJ50 of breaking God's command, is your only post to which I had responded in this thread, then obviously, as I wrote it, I had no need to read it, nor did I need to be insulted by your foul mouthed response.
ESAD. You responded out left field with high weirdness
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
The Evangelists wrote in Greek rather than in Hebrew...at that time only the capital letters of the Greek alphabet were used in writing, without diacritics, punctuation, or separation between words. Lower case letters appeared only in the ninth century, together with spacing between words. Punctuation marks were introduced only with the invention of the printing press in the 15th century. The present separations of chapters was introduced by Cardinal Hugo in the 13th century.

“WOMANWITHOUTHERMANISNOTHING.” Doesn’t make much sense, does it? Let us now separate the words. “Woman without her man is nothing,” that seems better doesn’t it? But without punctuation, what is being said here? “Woman without her man, is nothing;” or “Woman! Without her, man is nothing.”

How many biblical truths have been hidden by using the wrong punctuation.

But standing by the cross of Jesus were his mother, and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene. (Incorrect)

But standing by the cross of Jesus were his mother and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas and Mary Magdalene. (Correct)

According to the subject Guide in Young's Analytical concordance of the Bible, Alpheaus and Cleophas the husband of Mary are one and the same person. Cleophas, the masculine of Cleopatra, is the Greek for [Of a renowned Father] while the name Alpheaus, the Father of James the younger, who is the brother of Jesus, is the Aramaic for [Of a Renowned Father]

The four Gospels mention only two women by the name Mary, at the crucifixion, the burial, and the empty tomb of Jesus.
The RSV is the closest translation to the oldest documents in our possession, and the editors used the expertise of both Koine Greek and Hebrew scholars, and the interpretation I use is theirs. Here is a link to the RSV: Bible: Revised Standard Version
 
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