Freemasonry and All Declinations are Evil

Nada · Jun 25, 2015

Mattithyah said:
[[[[[[So, I suppose the debate part of this is: Anyone here want to argue that the Freemasons are a good or righteous organization?]]]]]]

Mat_21:42-44 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvelous in our eyes?
Mar_12:10 And have ye not read this scripture; The stone which the builders rejected is become the head of the corner:
Luk_20:17-18 And he beheld them, and said, What is this then that is written, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner?
Acts 4:10-11; I Pet. 2:5-7; Job 36:14; Rom. 1:24-27; Mat. 3:9; Mat. 11:2-19(Just like Freemason ceremonial garments or Catholic robes, they all wear and have always worn dresses. These are the "reed shaken with the wind," effeminate ; Isa. 28:16 (Lev. 18 sodomy is evil)

Matt. 11:12...and the violent take it by force. ...[Not violence, but violent men. Sodomy is violent. Freemasonry, the Babylonian Talmud, and Catholic teachings hold that the only way to get close to "God" is to engage in Sodomy, because it "illuminates the third eye." This is a deception taught by Satan to anyone willing to listen. Sodomy, as does all sin, creates diseases. The Bible, in places like Duet. 27 and 28, calls them "curses" but you get the idea. People want to believe the "old laws were done away with" or that "they were nailed to the cross." They fail to find Scripture to back up their own personal and private false-God, and also fail to reason it out that the Bible says those who are obedient to the whole Law do not suffer those curses, and those who disobey the Law do suffer the curses. So, what is your excuse now? Why do you suffer those curses? Your God lets you NOT have to observe all those burdensome Laws, yet also lets you keep the curses that once came only upon those who disobeyed the Law? Oh yeah! That makes a lot of sense if you're blind, deaf, dumb, and retarded, but you're the one suffering.]

Historically, Freemasons are builders, or so they claim. Although they were heavily into building things, crafting things, and stone work, the organization worships Satan and is intent on fulfilling Satan's goals. Lower members think it's nothing more than an innocent fraternity or a community organization for serving and bettering themselves and others, but this is also false. I have two friends who made it to 32nd degrees and can testify otherwise. The highest level members are mostly homosexuals and/or pedophiles.

I cannot find my notes on Hiram Abiff in the Bible. Popular writings all agree that Hiram Abiff is not mentioned in the Bible, but they cover it up and I don't remember why. If I come across my notes I'll update this to reflect it. Solomon was steeped in paganism for much of his life and was very cooperative with the early beginnings of Freemasonry.

Yes,this organization is not a good one. Albert Pike was a 33rd degree Mason and General in the confederate army.He was also the top leader of the Ku Klux Klan.If you look at the Masonic dress, and the KKK dress, at the time,they are the same.Albert Pike also wrote the Masonic book they use.He was said to be a satanist and indulged in the occult.There is a statue of him erected on American Federal ground.His statue is in D.C.Not because he was a good soldier.It is because the organization of Masons, who built this country,are giving him respect as a Master Mason and leader.

About Albert Pike

"Albert Pike (December 29, 1809–April 2, 1891) was an attorney, soldier, writer, and Freemason. Pike is the only Confederate military officer or figure to be honored with an outdoor statue in Washington, D.C. (in Judiciary Square)."

Why does the United States honor the treasonous Confederacy? - Democratic Underground

Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

AnnaCzereda · Jun 25, 2015

Bible Student said:
Their top leader was Albert Pike.

Freemasonry doesn't have a top leader and has never had. It's a pretty decentralized organization. Each lodge has its own Grand Master or Grand Mistress. The lodges are independent, except in very few circumstances (which I don't remember now) when the supervision of the national Grand Lodge is necessary. However, there is no international body that controls the Freemasonry all over the world.

Bible Student said:
If you look at the Masonic dress, and the KKK dress, at the time,they are the same.

No they aren't. I'm not an expert on Ku Klux Klan but it's sure as hell they didn't wear Masonic aprons.

Bible Student said:
Albert Pike also wrote the Masonic book they use.

Actually, the majority of Freemasons have never read "Morals and Dogma". It's terribly long, boring and quite difficult to read. And only a small part of it is dedicated to the Masonic rituals and symbols. The large part of the book are simply Pike's personal and semi-coherent philosophical rants.

Nada · Jun 25, 2015

AnnaCzereda said:
Freemasonry doesn't have a top leader

He was a top leader of the KKK.

Nobody said they word Masonic aprons.

I guess it is so long and boring that they reprinted it in 2011 just for kicks.

"An upgraded official reprint was released in 2011, with the benefit of annotations by Arturo de Hoyos, 33°, G∴C∴, the Scottish Rite's Grand Archivist and Grand Historian."

Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

AnnaCzereda · Jun 25, 2015

Bible Student said:
He was a top leader of the KKK.

And there is no evidence to support it except the gossip. And even if he was, so what? The behavior of individual Freemason doesn't represent the whole Freemasonry. In my country, many of Freemasons fought for freedom.

Bible Student said:
I guess it is so long and boring that they reprinted it in 2011 just for kicks.

Just because they reprinted it doesn't mean it's the favourite reading of each Mason.

Nada · Jun 25, 2015

AnnaCzereda said:
And there is no evidence to support it except the gossip. And even if he was, so what? The behavior of individual Freemason doesn't represent the whole Freemasonry. In my country, many of Freemasons fought for freedom.

Just because they reprinted it doesn't mean it's the favourite reading of each Mason.

Oh,ok.Thanks.

Ps.Here is some more "gossip."

"The Hidden Hands Behind Albert Pike´s Ku Klux Klan and Scottish Rite Freemasonry"

This man was also a Mason.

kenhilton · May 20, 2019

Mattithyah said:
[[[[[[So, I suppose the debate part of this is: Anyone here want to argue that the Freemasons are a good or righteous organization?]]]]]]

Mat_21:42-44 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvelous in our eyes?
Mar_12:10 And have ye not read this scripture; The stone which the builders rejected is become the head of the corner:
Luk_20:17-18 And he beheld them, and said, What is this then that is written, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner?
Acts 4:10-11; I Pet. 2:5-7; Job 36:14; Rom. 1:24-27; Mat. 3:9; Mat. 11:2-19(Just like Freemason ceremonial garments or Catholic robes, they all wear and have always worn dresses. These are the "reed shaken with the wind," effeminate ; Isa. 28:16 (Lev. 18 sodomy is evil)

Matt. 11:12...and the violent take it by force. ...[Not violence, but violent men. Sodomy is violent. Freemasonry, the Babylonian Talmud, and Catholic teachings hold that the only way to get close to "God" is to engage in Sodomy, because it "illuminates the third eye." This is a deception taught by Satan to anyone willing to listen. Sodomy, as does all sin, creates diseases. The Bible, in places like Duet. 27 and 28, calls them "curses" but you get the idea. People want to believe the "old laws were done away with" or that "they were nailed to the cross." They fail to find Scripture to back up their own personal and private false-God, and also fail to reason it out that the Bible says those who are obedient to the whole Law do not suffer those curses, and those who disobey the Law do suffer the curses. So, what is your excuse now? Why do you suffer those curses? Your God lets you NOT have to observe all those burdensome Laws, yet also lets you keep the curses that once came only upon those who disobeyed the Law? Oh yeah! That makes a lot of sense if you're blind, deaf, dumb, and retarded, but you're the one suffering.]

Historically, Freemasons are builders, or so they claim. Although they were heavily into building things, crafting things, and stone work, the organization worships Satan and is intent on fulfilling Satan's goals. Lower members think it's nothing more than an innocent fraternity or a community organization for serving and bettering themselves and others, but this is also false. I have two friends who made it to 32nd degrees and can testify otherwise. The highest level members are mostly homosexuals and/or pedophiles.

I cannot find my notes on Hiram Abiff in the Bible. Popular writings all agree that Hiram Abiff is not mentioned in the Bible, but they cover it up and I don't remember why. If I come across my notes I'll update this to reflect it. Solomon was steeped in paganism for much of his life and was very cooperative with the early beginnings of Freemasonry.

You are very wrong and misinformed, but I have the feeling that you made up your mind a long time ago. How would you know thesse things if you are not a Mason?

Kangaroo Feathers · May 20, 2019

Mattithyah said:
Historically, Freemasons are builders, or so they claim. Although they were heavily into building things, crafting things, and stone work, the organization worships Satan and is intent on fulfilling Satan's goals. Lower members think it's nothing more than an innocent fraternity or a community organization for serving and bettering themselves and others, but this is also false. I have two friends who made it to 32nd degrees and can testify otherwise. The highest level members are mostly homosexuals and/or pedophiles.

Evidence?

Because, frankly, it sounds about as legit as the Protocols of Zion.

kenhilton · May 20, 2019

Kangaroo Feathers said:
Evidence?

Because, frankly, it sounds about as legit as the Protocols of Zion.

Personal experience.
You make some very outrageous claims. To even dignify them would be a complete waste of time. However, we are all free to have our own opinions. I think we are done here. I will continue on.

Kangaroo Feathers · May 20, 2019

kenhilton said:
Personal experience.
You make some very outrageous claims. To even dignify them would be a complete waste of time. However, we are all free to have our own opinions. I think we are done here. I will continue on.

I'M making outrageous claims? Yeah. Okay. Whatever you say, Driveby.

kenhilton · May 20, 2019

Really? You wouldn't deem calling others homosexuals and pedophiles for the most part even slightly far out there? If not, then we have no more to discuss. We can go our separate ways.
However, if you would be interested in telling me more about your reference to the Protocol of Zion I would like that. Up to you.

kenhilton · May 20, 2019

kenhilton said:
Personal expeMattithyahrience.
You make some very outrageous claims. To even dignify them would be a complete waste of time. However, we are all free to have our own opinions. I think we are done here. I will continue on.[/QUOTE
BTW my coment were made in refence to those made by Mattithyah. Sorry for any confuion.

Kangaroo Feathers · May 21, 2019

kenhilton said:
Really? You wouldn't deem calling others homosexuals and pedophiles for the most part even slightly far out there? If not, then we have no more to discuss. We can go our separate ways.
However, if you would be interested in telling me more about your reference to the Protocol of Zion I would like that. Up to you.

Learn how the "quote" function works before getting all huffy. I didn't say anything about homosexuals and paedophiles, I quoted someone else who did.

kenhilton · May 21, 2019

AnnaCzereda said:
Freemasonry doesn't have a top leader and has never had. It's a pretty decentralized organization. Each lodge has its own Grand Master or Grand Mistress. The lodges are independent, except in very few circumstances (which I don't remember now) when the supervision of the national Grand Lodge is necessary. However, there is no international body that controls the Freemasonry all over the world.

No they aren't. I'm not an expert on Ku Klux Klan but it's sure as hell they didn't wear Masonic aprons.

Actually, the majority of Freemasons have never read "Morals and Dogma". It's terribly long, boring and quite difficult to read. And only a small part of it is dedicated to the Masonic rituals and symbols. The large part of the book are simply Pike's personal and semi-coherent philosophical rants.

Not all Mason are involved in the Scottish Rite.

Kangaroo Feathers said:
Learn how the "quote" function works before getting all huffy. I didn't say anything about homosexuals and paedophiles, I quoted someone else who did.

No Huff here my friend, I also wrote and made it clear that I was referring to that comment made by another earlier and that we were not on the same page. Do you agree with their comment at all? It sure is hard conversate on here without others becoming defensive. I will look up the "quote" function and do better in the future. It would be great if conversation happened on here and people were seeking knowledge. Have a good day. Hope we have cleared that up.

kenhilton · Jul 10, 2019

It is not clear at times what your stance or point of view is regarding the topic below. I would like to offer to you, with kind intention, that some of your information reads as biased and perhaps unintentionally perceptional.
I wish to add to your thread and perhaps share some knowledge.
Freemasonry is full of allegory. To look at the surface of nearly all things and to not bother to look below for meaning is an unfortunate habit.
The stone that was rejected and became the head of the corner.
Freemasons do not wear Catholic robes nor regalia.
Sodomy is a way that isease can be spread, if one of the persons involved are carrying one. Just as with vaginal sex and sharing needles.
Any mason who engages in illegal activity should be brought up on charges and removed.
As a 32nd degree SR Mason I can know that what I have read here is false and as stated earlier, heavily biased, perceptional and nothing more than opinion. I did not read one question below. I do not think that there is any intention to learn either.
So much of what I read below is aggressive. I certainly am not a pedophile. I
I hope you learn a better way.

Mattithyah said:
[[[[[[So, I suppose the debate part of this is: Anyone here want to argue that the Freemasons are a good or righteous organization?]]]]]]

Mat_21:42-44 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvelous in our eyes?
Mar_12:10 And have ye not read this scripture; The stone which the builders rejected is become the head of the corner:
Luk_20:17-18 And he beheld them, and said, What is this then that is written, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner?
Acts 4:10-11; I Pet. 2:5-7; Job 36:14; Rom. 1:24-27; Mat. 3:9; Mat. 11:2-19(Just like Freemason ceremonial garments or Catholic robes, they all wear and have always worn dresses. These are the "reed shaken with the wind," effeminate ; Isa. 28:16 (Lev. 18 sodomy is evil)

Matt. 11:12...and the violent take it by force. ...[Not violence, but violent men. Sodomy is violent. Freemasonry, the Babylonian Talmud, and Catholic teachings hold that the only way to get close to "God" is to engage in Sodomy, because it "illuminates the third eye." This is a deception taught by Satan to anyone willing to listen. Sodomy, as does all sin, creates diseases. The Bible, in places like Duet. 27 and 28, calls them "curses" but you get the idea. People want to believe the "old laws were done away with" or that "they were nailed to the cross." They fail to find Scripture to back up their own personal and private false-God, and also fail to reason it out that the Bible says those who are obedient to the whole Law do not suffer those curses, and those who disobey the Law do suffer the curses. So, what is your excuse now? Why do you suffer those curses? Your God lets you NOT have to observe all those burdensome Laws, yet also lets you keep the curses that once came only upon those who disobeyed the Law? Oh yeah! That makes a lot of sense if you're blind, deaf, dumb, and retarded, but you're the one suffering.]

Historically, Freemasons are builders, or so they claim. Although they were heavily into building things, crafting things, and stone work, the organization worships Satan and is intent on fulfilling Satan's goals. Lower members think it's nothing more than an innocent fraternity or a community organization for serving and bettering themselves and others, but this is also false. I have two friends who made it to 32nd degrees and can testify otherwise. The highest level members are mostly homosexuals and/or pedophiles.

I cannot find my notes on Hiram Abiff in the Bible. Popular writings all agree that Hiram Abiff is not mentioned in the Bible, but they cover it up and I don't remember why. If I come across my notes I'll update this to reflect it. Solomon was steeped in paganism for much of his life and was very cooperative with the early beginnings of Freemasonry.

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