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Those who suffer most suffer least

Spiderman

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The Buddha found freedom from suffering but only after extreme poverty and suffering.


I find that living an easy life lowers a person’s tolerance to suffering, only causing more suffering in the end.



It’s better to keep suffering and have a “bring it on” type attitude regarding suffering, so that mind, body, and soul learns coping skills to suffering, and most of all, tolerance to suffering grows, so that we remain firm and standing when **** really hits the fan!



Thoughts?
 

Shadow Wolf

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Suffering really serves no good. It cuts us down, deminishes quality of life, and shouldnt be tauted as anything necessary. I grew tired of it, changed things, and now my life has never been better.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Suffering really serves no good. It cuts us down, deminishes quality of life, and shouldnt be tauted as anything necessary. I grew tired of it, changed things, and now my life has never been better.
I don't think suffering is good in itself, but if we are going to suffer and die, which all of us must, I see building a tolerance to cope with what is inevitable, to be a good thing. Athletes constantly follow the slogan "No pain no gain...resistance builds strength". There is much evidence of that being true.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
I don't think suffering is good in itself, but if we are going to suffer and die, which all of us must, I see building a tolerance to cope with what is inevitable, to be a good thing. Athletes constantly follow the slogan "No pain no gain...resistance builds strength". There is much evidence of that being true.
A work out really isn't suffering though. Having resilience is good, but suffering serves no good as it indicates something is wrong.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
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The Buddha found freedom from suffering but only after extreme poverty and suffering.


I find that living an easy life lowers a person’s tolerance to suffering, only causing more suffering in the end.



It’s better to keep suffering and have a “bring it on” type attitude regarding suffering, so that mind, body, and soul learns coping skills to suffering, and most of all, tolerance to suffering grows, so that we remain firm and standing when **** really hits the fan!



Thoughts?
A friend in seminary—who had a brain tumor that we thought would take him within a year or two—told me a story of a time he met Fr. Benedict Groeschel, one of the founders of the Franciscan Friars of the Renewal. Fr. Groeschel, who is well-known among some subsets of Catholics as an author and spiritual teacher, explained to Fr. Philip that suffering serves as a catalyst for deepening and growing in the spiritual life. As we suffer, we move through the purgative, illuminative, and unitive stages of the spiritual life more quickly. There’s something about suffering, when embraced in the light of Jesus Christ, that allows it to become an important catalyst for growth. This is often seen when physical suffering or illness, are enlightened and deepened when we turn to the Lord. If we practice that ongoing conversion, it helps us to move more deeply into contemplative prayer.
Suffering as a Catalyst for Growth

Of course my suffering led to an interest in Buddhism and detachment. I suppose without suffering, I'd had gone about life being a total ********.
 

Road Less Traveled

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The Buddha found freedom from suffering but only after extreme poverty and suffering.


I find that living an easy life lowers a person’s tolerance to suffering, only causing more suffering in the end.



It’s better to keep suffering and have a “bring it on” type attitude regarding suffering, so that mind, body, and soul learns coping skills to suffering, and most of all, tolerance to suffering grows, so that we remain firm and standing when **** really hits the fan!



Thoughts?

For me, hell suffering is futile and even evil. Yet it’s the condition we find ourselves in.... so might as well kick its arse the best we can and transmute as much of it as we can within our volition and ability.

The end perception of coming to realize how futile and evil it is, and not wanting to intentionally do any harm to anything.

Been through the ringer myself, look back and laugh, and now it can no longer break me. But for those who succumb to it and are very limited in ability to conquer it, heart goes out to and that’s okay too.
 
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Dan From Smithville

What's up Doc?
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The Buddha found freedom from suffering but only after extreme poverty and suffering.


I find that living an easy life lowers a person’s tolerance to suffering, only causing more suffering in the end.



It’s better to keep suffering and have a “bring it on” type attitude regarding suffering, so that mind, body, and soul learns coping skills to suffering, and most of all, tolerance to suffering grows, so that we remain firm and standing when **** really hits the fan!



Thoughts?
People do seem to thrive better when there is some adversity to overcome. There is some evidence that our ancestors could handle pain better than we can, because they were subjected to it more frequently. Skulls have been found with evidence of what would have been debilitating dental problems for us. And there is evidence that the persons whose skulls were examined had lived with the problem for a significant amount of time.

Those that are the tallest may be the shortest if those tall people rely on a false sense of superiority that has evolved with recognition of their height and many erroneous notions associated with greater height. Pride in a character that exists outside of our control and through no action of our own could be an indication of a very small person.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
Suffering really serves no good. It cuts us down, deminishes quality of life, and shouldnt be tauted as anything necessary. I grew tired of it, changed things, and now my life has never been better.
Suffering is just part of life, though. You can't completely get rid of it. I think Pope's point is that we shouldn't insulate ourselves from it but face it and grow from it.
 

Dan From Smithville

What's up Doc?
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The Buddha found freedom from suffering but only after extreme poverty and suffering.


I find that living an easy life lowers a person’s tolerance to suffering, only causing more suffering in the end.



It’s better to keep suffering and have a “bring it on” type attitude regarding suffering, so that mind, body, and soul learns coping skills to suffering, and most of all, tolerance to suffering grows, so that we remain firm and standing when **** really hits the fan!



Thoughts?
I have suffered lower back pain since I was 27. Sometimes it was barely tolerable, but I chose to endure it and live with it. Unfortunately, that only made it worse to the point that I needed eventual hospitalization and therapy. So there is a limit to the endurance of suffering and some negative consequences for choosing to ignore it like a leaky roof when it is not raining.

It is much like the knowledge that chasing cars is not a good thing is a fatal lesson. Dogs often only discover that they really do not want to catch a car only after they finally do catch one.
 

David T

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The Buddha found freedom from suffering but only after extreme poverty and suffering.


I find that living an easy life lowers a person’s tolerance to suffering, only causing more suffering in the end.



It’s better to keep suffering and have a “bring it on” type attitude regarding suffering, so that mind, body, and soul learns coping skills to suffering, and most of all, tolerance to suffering grows, so that we remain firm and standing when **** really hits the fan!



Thoughts?
breathing.. As always. Oh wait is that a thought? Can you write a piece on what you think breathing is?
 
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