I was wondering that too.
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What does the Bible say about the origins of the Earth in relation to what science say?
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Shad
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That isn't what time dilation actually is. Time dilation is differences in time measurement due to velocity of the observer. Time measurement slow for the observer at high velocity compared to one that is not. So an hour could pass the observer moving at a high velocity while it could be 3 hours for the low velocity observer. This has been tested with the higher speeds we are capable of via planes using atomic clocks.
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Audie
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As he introduced embarrassment about ignorance,
it seems fair to look at embarrassing ignorance that
is so plainly displayed.
One seldom if ever finds a well educated
person who is so inept in their native language.
In other circumstances one might ask,
"Ifn ya is so smart, why ain't ya rich?"
Subduction Zone
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That was an observation. You merely took a word out of context and put your own, non-expert interpretation on it. To show that you are wrong I only need the countless versions that do not perform that error:
Genesis 1:16 God made two great lights: the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night. And He made the stars as well.
Changing the translation because the Bible would be wrong if one did not is never a valid reason to do so.
shmogie
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Yes. it is all related to E=MC2. The expansion of the universe ¨stretches time in distance, thus effecting the measurement at point A at the beginning of the expansion and point B a great distance from the beginning point of expansion. Time dilation.
Subduction Zone
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Not exactly. The "moving person" would also observe the other person's clock moving more slowly. There is no absolute motion in physics so who is moving and who is stationary all depends on frame of reference.
SA Huguenot
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My dear friend.
If this is your argument, I want you to know that out of hundreds of manuscripts, including the DSS which contain at least 3 manuscripts of Genesis as early as 200BC, all of them do not have the words "He made ...".
If you do not want to accept a small fact about one verse in the Bible that is actually cast in concrete, I understand why you are an Atheist.
Pure "Bible derangement syndrome".
Wandering Monk
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If the speed of light was significantly higher in the past than today, there would have been a corresponding increase in energy released by matter (per the equation.) All stars require the reaction of matter in order for there to be the fusion that makes them work. Some Christians think the earth is only 6000 years old. If that were true and we apply their hypothesis to Einstein's equation for our sun, then 6000 years ago our sun would have put out about 800 billion times the energy it does today. Too toasty for life.
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SA Huguenot
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Some Christians can think what they want, the Bible never says the Earth and Universe is 6 000 years old.
Some Christians knows the Earth is 6 000 years ols plus all the time that passed between the "Beginning" and the "First day".
Could be billions of years, who cares.
The Bible is correct and science agrees.
Wandering Monk
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Apparently it is very flexible when it comes to making hypotheses about the age of the universe as well.
sooda
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Why not? Genesis and Exodus were written after the Babylonian exile.. redacted and amended several times.
Wandering Monk
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shmogie
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There is no evidence that I know of that implies that the speed of light has ever varied.
The Genesis account has much more depth than a cursory reading would apply, it can be linked to science much more than the average person would think.
The 6,000 year old number to be true is dependent upon perspective. If Time dilation works as Dr, Schroeder predicts, then the perspective from the earth early in creation in might be true, yet the perspective from the outer limits of the universe may be true as well 15 billion years.
It seems to be all about where things are measured by time.
As my high school English teacher used those words, I think your local English teachers also can do the same.
To me it is Not another language even though Genesis was written in Hebrew so a local Rabbi could also shed light.
So, to me English teachers and Jewish Rabbi's could support my claim about the difference between the words ' create ' and ' make '.
We think of God creating Adam, and how did God create Adam but by forming Adam from existing earth/ground.
So, who could Not see the difference that Adam was Not a direct Creation, but created by being formed out of already existing creation.
The only canibalsim I have found in Scripture is found at 2 kings 8 1 ( two kings ate one ) pun intended.
Canibalism was considered repulsive as found at 2 Kings 6:26-31.
Also, was the sacrificing of children as per Jeremiah 32:35; 2 Chronicles 28:3
I would like to take the liberty to add to the ^ above ^ that some ' so-called Christians...'
'Christendom' (so-called Christian but mostly in name only) might teach 6,000 years, but the Bible does Not.
Just as there is No time limit given to God's 7th day, there is No time frame given for the six creative days.
God's 7th day was still on going in the first century according to Hebrews 4:4-11 and is still on going.
There is No mention if each of the creative days were of the same or differing lengths of time.
Noah could have easily had pre-flood writings taken on the Ark with him (Genesis 5)
Those writings could have been passed on to Moses for Moses to use.
After all, Scripture is 'the mind of God' written down for us - 2 Timothy 3:16-17.
sooda
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Its the year 5779 in the Jewish Calendar.
sooda
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Moses and Noah are fictional characters in a morality tale.
Subduction Zone
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Now you are merely spouting nonsense. .
You need to support your earlier claim. Appealing to some possibly mythical teacher does not do the trick.