Who Are You?

Fool · Jul 4, 2019

SalixIncendium said:
In Vedanta, or more specifically jnana yoga and Advaita Vedanta, there is a process called neti neti which is a Sanskrit term meaning 'not this, not this.' It is an analysis of what one truly is through the process of negation. In essence, anything one can observe is not who they are in their true nature. I can observe my breathing, therefore I am not my breathing. I can observe my thoughts, therefore I am not my thoughts. I can observe my body, therefore I am not my body. And so on.

In your simplest, most basic, and truest form, who are you?

the unconditional that is all conditions

Brickjectivity · Jul 4, 2019

For those who like me don't remember their terms well: Neti neti - Wikipedia

By the way look how fantastically neat this man's beard is. How does he do that? It looks impossible. Whenever I try that it never comes out neat.

SalixIncendium · Jul 4, 2019

Jos said:
How can one experience this Self? Also, isn't it kinda strange that a person has to go through an experience in order to find their True Self?

In my view, most live behind a veil of ignorance to the Self until it is decided that one is ready to realize it.

Earthling · Jul 4, 2019

atanu said:
That is wrong statement. You can observe your body, your limbs, your senses, your thoughts, your moods. Which of these is ‘me’?

Excellent point. Recently I made a similar point regarding the Biblical resurrection.

Earthling · Jul 4, 2019

SalixIncendium said:
Who is “me?” Who is it that is doing the observing?

Ultimately it isn't observable in true nature, apparently. I'm only speculating out of curiosity. If there is a metaphysical instruction there I'm most likely missing it. Thus the curiosity. The me, no mater if the physical body or some other manifestation of the self wouldn't be observable or the point would be more likely that the me, or self, isn't easily perceivable by the one observing.

Am I close?!

atanu · Jul 4, 2019

Samana Johann said:
That's a question which should be laid aside, focus on be clear of what is not yours, no refuge. Papanca is main reason of suffering, Brahman SalixIncendium. Meanwhile: the effect of ones past and present action, or the carrier of the burden.

Selves & Not-self: The Buddhist Teaching on Anatta, might be very useful.

You are like a fundamentalist.

Jos · Jul 4, 2019

Earthling said:
Excellent point. Recently I made a similar point regarding the Biblical resurrection.

And what point would that be?

Samana Johann · Jul 4, 2019

SalixIncendium said:
Perhaps laying the question aside works for your person, but there are those to which the answer to that question eradicates suffering.

I suppose it would be prudent to check local listings.

As Brahman likes to think.

Samana Johann · Jul 4, 2019

atanu said:
You are like a fundamentalist.

We had a supranatural issue already today. So no comment.

Samana Johann · Jul 4, 2019

JJ50 said:
I am a member of the human species of animal.

Who told householder that? Any prove?

Samana Johann · Jul 4, 2019

SalixIncendium said:
That’s the question posed in the OP. I’m not sure that anyone can answer this question for you.

Sure: released.

ManSinha · Jul 4, 2019

@SalixIncendium The saint and mystic Kabir - makes an attempt to answer that question in one of his couplets

Earthling · Jul 4, 2019

Jos said:
And what point would that be?

That the physical body doesn't necessarily constitute the self entirely. We are more than our physical, immediately observable physical forms.

[ETA] I just realized that you may have been asking about the point I made regarding resurrection. That is similar in that we are not resurrected in our current bodies. Specifically, that when we are resurrected, according to the Bible, it won't likely be in the bodies we previously possessed.

JJ50 · Jul 4, 2019

Earthling said:
That the physical body doesn't necessarily constitute the self entirely. We are more than our physical, immediately observable physical forms.

There is no evidence that is true, imo.

Earthling · Jul 4, 2019

JJ50 said:
There is no evidence that is true, imo.

Fair enough. Is there any evidence to the contrary?

PureX · Jul 4, 2019

I am the question being asked.

atanu · Jul 4, 2019

Samana Johann said:
That's a question which should be laid aside, focus on be clear of what is not yours, ......
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Whatever is not yours, let go of it. Your letting go of it will be for your long-term welfare & happiness.

— MN 22

You first need to know who you are and what is yours to be able to let go of what is not your’s.

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The neti neti process IS letting go of all that is not you.

The Reverend Bob · Jul 4, 2019

I am who I am and that is all that I am - Popeye the Sailor Man
You go do you.

LuisDantas · Jul 4, 2019

SalixIncendium said:
In your simplest, most basic, and truest form, who are you?

A person trying hard to learn the necessary skills.

atanu · Jul 4, 2019

joe1776 said:
If the neti neti process is valid, then clearly I am The Observer.

Formless pure awareness.

Who Are You?

ALL in all

wind and rain touch not this brain

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