Rational Agnostic
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Perhaps I would've gotten along pretty well with Jesus. Apparently he knew how to party.
Most Christians seem to believe that drinking alcohol to the point of drunkenness is a sin. Yet, apparently, Jesus fully endorsed drunkenness, as we can see in John 2:9-11:
and the master of the banquet tasted the water that had been turned into wine. He did not realize where it had come from, though the servants who had drawn the water knew. Then he called the bridegroom aside and said, “Everyone brings out the choice wine first and then the cheaper wine after the guests have had too much to drink; but you have saved the best till now.”What Jesus did here in Cana of Galilee was the first of the signs through which he revealed his glory; and his disciples believed in him.
Clearly, Jesus' first miracle was getting people (who were already plastered) even more inebriated. No wonder they all believed in his "glory!"
The Bible also clearly states that Jesus was a social drinker and that people viewed Jesus as a glutton and a drunkard. See Luke 7:34
The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and you say, 'Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.'
So, why do Christians so often assume that drinking alcohol is a sin? If they actually paid attention to what the guy they supposedly follow did, they would fully support drinking to drunkenness. After all, Jesus' first miracle was creating wine to give to people who were already drunk. Thus, a true Christian would not view drunkenness as a sin, and on the contrary, would encourage it.
Most Christians seem to believe that drinking alcohol to the point of drunkenness is a sin. Yet, apparently, Jesus fully endorsed drunkenness, as we can see in John 2:9-11:
and the master of the banquet tasted the water that had been turned into wine. He did not realize where it had come from, though the servants who had drawn the water knew. Then he called the bridegroom aside and said, “Everyone brings out the choice wine first and then the cheaper wine after the guests have had too much to drink; but you have saved the best till now.”What Jesus did here in Cana of Galilee was the first of the signs through which he revealed his glory; and his disciples believed in him.
Clearly, Jesus' first miracle was getting people (who were already plastered) even more inebriated. No wonder they all believed in his "glory!"
The Bible also clearly states that Jesus was a social drinker and that people viewed Jesus as a glutton and a drunkard. See Luke 7:34
The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and you say, 'Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.'
So, why do Christians so often assume that drinking alcohol is a sin? If they actually paid attention to what the guy they supposedly follow did, they would fully support drinking to drunkenness. After all, Jesus' first miracle was creating wine to give to people who were already drunk. Thus, a true Christian would not view drunkenness as a sin, and on the contrary, would encourage it.
) There is no suggestion in the story that "Jesus fully endorsed drunkenness". If he had responded, "No, I'm not doing that, there are some people here who have already had quite enough", what a miserable git he would have been. 