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Anti-immigration People are Sodomites.

Cooky

Veteran Member
I have hundreds.

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Cooky

Veteran Member
When immigrants live in your land with you, you must not cheat them. Any immigrant who lives with you must be treated as if they were one of your citizens. You must love them as yourself, because you were immigrants in the land of Egypt; I am the LORD your God.
Leviticus 19:33-34

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Road Less Traveled

Active Member
According the Bible the sin of Sodom and the reason for it's destruction was that they weren't very hospitable to the stranger and the sojourner, in fact they were downright hostile towards the strangers and sojourners threatening them with all sort of violence. I need not get into the Genesis account that everyone is familiar with but the Genesis in no way mentions that homosexuality was the reason for Sodom's destruction I think it is apparent within the account why Sodom had to be destroy but Ezekiel clarifies it:

‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
Ezekiel 16:49

They full of themselves, fat and apathetic. They refuse to help those in need. Does that sound like a certain apathetic nation filled with obese people who don't care one way or the other because damn it "we're number 1!"? Sounds familiar to me. The crime was inhospitality, pride, gluttony and apathy and treading on the poor and needy. Not homosexuality.

But I tell you that it will be more bearable for Sodom on the day of judgment than for you.
Matthew 11:24

I know a lot of good samaritans who were led straight into the hell suffering for trying to help out others. So, in many instances the exact reason for the destruction of those good Samaritan’s were due to trying to help.
 

The Reverend Bob

Fart Machine and Beastmaster
I know a lot of good samaritans who were led straight into the hell suffering for trying to help out others. So, in many instances the exact reason for the destruction of those good Samaritan’s were due to trying to help.
So what are you saying that we shouldn't do what Jesus told us to do because that might lead to hardship? Tough tits if it does.
 

Road Less Traveled

Active Member
I know a lot of good samaritans who were led straight into the hell suffering for trying to help out others. So, in many instances the exact reason for the destruction of those good Samaritan’s were due to trying to help.

While at the same time... in moderation, diligently, and wisely... and no one trying to guilt trip people into doing something by plea to their alleged ‘goodness,’ helping can be a solid thing.
 

Darkforbid

Well-Known Member
You know there are lots of areas in the UK becoming dominated by a particularly race the reason is simple, one buys a house. Then all the middle class non-racists move out
 

Duke_Leto

Active Member
You know there are lots of areas in the UK becoming dominated by a particularly race the reason is simple, one buys a house. Then all the middle class non-racists move out

Oh, god forbid non-white people move to the country which invaded a third of the planet.
 

The Reverend Bob

Fart Machine and Beastmaster
While at the same time... in moderation, diligently, and wisely... and no one trying to guilt trip people into doing something by plea to their alleged ‘goodness,’ helping can be a solid thing.

Yeah. Because what Jesus loves the most is lukewarmness and mediocrity.

Whatever you do, work heartily, as for the Lord and not for men, knowing that from the Lord you will receive the inheritance as your reward. You are serving the Lord Christ.
Colossians 3:23-24

And whatever you do, in word or deed, do everything in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.
Colossians 3:17

Religion that is pure and undefiled before God, the Father, is this: to visit orphans and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unstained from the world.
James 1:27

And if your eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life with one eye than with two eyes to be thrown into the hell of fire.
Matthew 18:9

So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God.
1 Corinthians 10:31

I can do all things through him who strengthens me.
Philippians 4:13

I know your deeds; you are neither cold nor hot. How I wish you were one or the other!
So because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to vomit you out of My mouth!
Revelation 3:15-16

I am sorry but Jesus doesn't do average. With Him, you are either all in or you are all out.

Whoever is not with Me is against Me, and whoever does not gather with Me scatters
Matthew 12:30
 

Darkforbid

Well-Known Member
Oh, god forbid non-white people move to the country which invaded a third of the planet.

I agree! That's why I disapprove of EU migrants taking the jobs. That in fairness should go to people from countries that we have a debt to

Plus it's become clearly obvious that a large number of EU supporters hate the English

Take my road a load of shops staffed by people of the same nationally as the owners apart from the UK ones where you'll find all nationalities. Apparently we're racist
 

Road Less Traveled

Active Member
Yeah. Because what Jesus loves the most is lukewarmness and mediocrity.

Whatever you do, work heartily, as for the Lord and not for men, knowing that from the Lord you will receive the inheritance as your reward. You are serving the Lord Christ.
Colossians 3:23-24

And whatever you do, in word or deed, do everything in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.
Colossians 3:17

Religion that is pure and undefiled before God, the Father, is this: to visit orphans and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unstained from the world.
James 1:27

And if your eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life with one eye than with two eyes to be thrown into the hell of fire.
Matthew 18:9

So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God.
1 Corinthians 10:31

I can do all things through him who strengthens me.
Philippians 4:13

I know your deeds; you are neither cold nor hot. How I wish you were one or the other! So because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to vomit you out of My mouth!
Revelation 3:15-16

I am sorry but Jesus doesn't do average. With Him, you are either all in or you are all out.

Whoever is not with Me is against Me, and whoever does not gather with Me scatters
Matthew 12:30

Bob, you can take whatever texts you’d like and interpret them however you’d like, make whichever equivalences you want with them, use them to try and control/guilt trip others but the fact won’t change that Jesus and God would be in a much more powerful position to act than inferior humans. Immigration, the state of the mess is out of the control of almost everyone besides the governments that God put in place to run its insane asylum. So do as your texts say and have faith in the governments put here by your god.
 

The Reverend Bob

Fart Machine and Beastmaster
Bob, you can take whatever texts you’d like and interpret them however you’d like, make whichever equivalences you want with them, use them to try and control/guilt trip others but the fact won’t change that Jesus and God would be in a much more powerful position to act than inferior humans. Immigration, the state of the mess is out of the control of almost everyone besides the governments that God put in place to run its insane asylum. So do as your texts say and have faith in the governments put here by your god.
Like @Deeje would tell you :

With that they called them and ordered them not to say anything at all or to teach on the basis of the name of Jesus. But in reply Peter and John said to them: “Whether it is right in the sight of God to listen to you rather than to God, judge for yourselves. But as for us, we cannot stop speaking about the things we have seen and heard
Acts of the Apostles 4:18-20

In answer Peter and the other apostles said: “We must obey God as ruler rather than men"
Acts of the Apostles 5:29

Jesus then said: “Pay back Caesar’s things to Caesar,but God’s things to God.” And they were amazed at him.
Mark 12:17
 

Dan From Smithville

What's up Doc?
Staff member
Premium Member
North Korea is a "closed" country. No one immigrates there. If one intrudes by jumping the border, he will be shot on sight.

...Why has North Korea not been incinerated by fire and brimsrone yet?
Are a lot of travelers actually going there that are poor and needy? Maybe they have not maxed out yet.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
A bit consumed by their own pleasures perhaps.

Jesus said 'because immorality is increased most people's love will grow cold.

But the Genesis account had rape gangs willing to attempt home invasions which I think
qualifies as pretty imoral.

The Sodom myth involves two males traveling together; whereas the Gibeah myth cites a man and his concubine (there is a passing mention of a male servant, yet his role in the tale was evidently too insignificant for further reference). The hospitable host in the Sodom myth has two daughters; whereas in the Gibeah myth only one daughter is mentioned. The Sodom myth was the pretext for the destruction of the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah; whereas the Gibeah myth was the pretext for civil war against the Benjamite tribe of Israel.

Misogyny In The Myth Of Sodom And Gomorrah
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
According the Bible the sin of Sodom and the reason for it's destruction was that they weren't very hospitable to the stranger and the sojourner, in fact they were downright hostile towards the strangers and sojourners threatening them with all sort of violence. I need not get into the Genesis account that everyone is familiar with but the Genesis in no way mentions that homosexuality was the reason for Sodom's destruction I think it is apparent within the account why Sodom had to be destroy but Ezekiel clarifies it:

‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
Ezekiel 16:49

They full of themselves, fat and apathetic. They refuse to help those in need. Does that sound like a certain apathetic nation filled with obese people who don't care one way or the other because damn it "we're number 1!"? Sounds familiar to me. The crime was inhospitality, pride, gluttony and apathy and treading on the poor and needy. Not homosexuality.

But I tell you that it will be more bearable for Sodom on the day of judgment than for you.
Matthew 11:24

I would not normally enter into a thread like this but since you have piqued my curiosity, I would like to address your OP.

In suggesting that the crime of the people of Sodom was "inhospitality, pride, gluttony and apathy and treading on the poor and needy. Not homosexuality." I can only ask how you can come to such a conclusion after reading the whole account in Genesis 19.

From the Tanach....Genesis 19:4-8...

"4 When they had not yet retired, and the people of the city, the people of Sodom, surrounded the house, both young and old, the entire populace from every end [of the city].

5 And they called to Lot and said to him, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us, and let us be intimate with them."

6 And Lot came out to them to the entrance, and he shut the door behind him.

7 And he said, "My brethren, please do not do evil.

8 Behold now I have two daughters who were not intimate with a man. I will bring them out to you, and do to them as you see fit; only to these men do nothing, because they have come under the shadow of my roof."


So what does this mean....they wanted to be "intimate" with them? It was obviously an "evil" kind of intimacy because Lot offered his daughters to them in order to protect his divine visitors. Those who came under the shelter of a man's roof were assured of his hospitality and protection.

In offering his virgin daughters (who had never been intimate with a man) Lot showed us the kind of intimacy that the people demanded....not the natural kind with women but the depraved kind involved with homosexual gang rape.

With regard to the scripture in Ezekiel 16:49, you should have included verse 50.

"49 Behold this was the iniquity of Sodom your sister: pride, abundance of bread, and careless ease were hers and her daughters', and she did not strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.
50 And they became haughty and did abomination before Me, and I removed them when I saw."
(Tanach)

Does God consider being inhospitable or neglect for the needy to be an "abomination"?

According to Strongs, "abomination" in Hebrew is.... tôwʻêbah, to-ay-baw'; or תֹּעֵבַה tôʻêbah; feminine active participle of H8581; properly, something disgusting (morally)"

I do not see anything "morally disgusting" in what you suggest was their behavior.....do you?

Regarding the scripture in Matthew

Jude 3-7 makes some interesting clarifications also.

"Beloved ones, although I was making every effort to write you about the salvation we hold in common, I found it necessary to write you to urge you to put up a hard fight for the faith that was once for all time delivered to the holy ones. 4 My reason is that certain men have slipped in among you who were long ago appointed to this judgment by the Scriptures; they are ungodly men who turn the undeserved kindness of our God into an excuse for brazen [shameless] conduct and who prove false to our only owner and Lord, Jesus Christ.

5 Although you are fully aware of all of this, I want to remind you that Jehovah, having saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those not showing faith. 6 And the angels who did not keep their original position but forsook their own proper dwelling place, he has reserved with eternal bonds in dense darkness for the judgment of the great day. 7 In the same manner, Sodʹom and Go·morʹrah and the cities around them also gave themselves over to gross sexual immorality and pursued unnatural fleshly desires; they are placed before us as a warning example by undergoing the judicial punishment of everlasting fire."


By describing the Sodomites as those engaging in "gross sexual immorality" we find the Greek words...
"ekporneuō" which means "give one's self over to fornication" and it is described as "gross.

It also mentions "unnatural fleshly desires" or as some translation render it "strange flesh". That is "heteros" and it means..."another: i.e. one not of the same nature, form, class, kind, different" .
So with all that in mind....what you are suggesting about the people of Sodom is clearly incorrect.

What does the word "sodomy" mean after all? According to Wiki.....
"The precise sexual acts meant by the term sodomy are rarely spelled out in the law, but are typically understood by courts to include any sexual act deemed to be "unnatural" or immoral. Sodomy typically includes anal sex, oral sex, and bestiality."

So.....I feel that you are flogging a dead horse here.....
 

Darkforbid

Well-Known Member
Bonobos don't have pimps - they just get on with it... they have wisely kept the camel's nose out of the bedroom and not allowed 'creeping normality' to degrade the joy of sex for them.

Not exactly a evolutionarily success story

(What that word for people who promote risk like it's safe)
 
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