3rdAngel
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You misrepreent God's Word in order to promote sin. For this you will be held accountable to God. You are confused saying that the Old Testament scriptures are not Chrsitian when everything that we have in the New Testament comes from the Old Testament scriptures. In the days of Jesus and the disciples their bible was the Old Testament scriptures and it was the Old Testament scriptures that pointed to Jesus and God's plan of salvation in the New Testament. Everything that is written in the New Testament comes from the Old Testament scriptures. Together it is both the Old and New Testament scriptures that make up the Word of God (the bible) and is why it is written in the New Testament. To say that the old Testament scriptures are not Christian is to say that the New Testament scriptures are not Chrsitian. I guess you did not think this through very well when it is the New Testament scriptures that say...
2 Timothy 3:16 [16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.
1 Corinthians 10:11 [11], Now all these things happened to them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, on whom the ends of the world are come.
Matthew 4:4 [4], But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God.
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It is both the Old Testament and the New Testament scriptures that forbid homosexuality. This is God's Word not my words that you misrepresent in order to promote a sin that is expressly forbidden in God's Word. You promote your words to try and argue away God's Word, so your argument is with God not me. Your teaching and pomoting sin which you will be held accountable because promoting sin is not Christian or a Christian thing to say or do. Your clearly do not know what you are talking about trying to justify sin when God's Word calls homosexuality an abomination in His eyes and says those doing it will not enter into God's Kingdom.
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Old Testament Scriptures on Homosexuality
Leviticus 18:22
You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.
Leviticus 20:13
If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.(Leviticus 20:13)
Genesis 19:4–5
4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both young and old, all the people from every quarter.
5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him: 'Where are the men that came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.'
(NRSV: know them, NIV: can have sex with them, NJB: can have intercourse with them).
Lot refused to give his guests to the inhabitants of Sodom for homosexuality and, instead, offered them his two virgin daughters "which have not known man" and to "do ye to them as [is] good in your eyes". However, they refused this offer, complained about this alien, namely Lot, giving orders, and then came near to break down the door.
Jewish View of Old Testament Homosexuality from Leviticus
Rabbi Basil Herring, who served as head of the Rabbinical Council of America from 2003 to 2012, writes that both the Rabbinic tradition and modern orthodox position consider the Torah to condemn homosexuality as an abomination. Moreover, that it "conveys its abhorrence of homosexuality through a variety of narrative settings", God's judgment of Sodom and Gomorrah being a "paradigmatic" instance of such condemnation.
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NewTestament Scriptures on Homosexuality
1 Corinthians 6:9-10
9, Know you not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor men who practice homosexuality, 10, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortionists, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
Parrallel translation of 1 Corinthians 6:9 linked here click me...
Yep pretty clear that the translators got it right and this is consistant with the Old Testament scriptures shown above that homosexuality was an express commandment by God which was forbidden and is an abomination in God's eyes
Leviticus 18:22; Leviticus 20:13.
Let's continue....
The scriptures say that what happened to Sodom and Gomorrah and the people in Noahs day are example of of what will happen to the ungodly (those who practice sin) at the 2nd coming (2 Peter 2:6).
Luke 17:26-30
26, And as it came to pass in the days of Noah, even so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
27, They ate, they drank, they married, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
28, Likewise even as it came to pass in the days of Lot; they ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
29, but in the day that Lot went out from Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all:
30, after the same manner shall it be in the day that the Son of man is revealed.
Matthew 24:35-39
35, Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
36, But of that day and hour knows no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
37, But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38, For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Romans 1:18-32
18, For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
19, Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God has showed it to them.
20, For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21, Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22, Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23, And changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and four footed beasts, and creeping things.
24, Why God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves:
25, Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26, For this cause God gave them up to vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27, And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet.
28, And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29, Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31, Without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32, Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
How sad would you be if you had a knowledge of the truth but turned your back to the warnings of God's Word then finding yourself in that situation?
For me I believe God's Word and I believe sadly many are going to find out too late what they have missed out on.
Sorry friend your teaching and promoting sin which is forbidden in God's Word and an abomination in God's eyes. These are God's Word not mine and God's Word disagrees with you. Would not like to be in your shoes. This is only sent in love and as a help to you. If you cannot hear God's Word then I will leave this between you and God as it is God's Word not mine that you disagree with so your argument is with God not me.
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