susanblange
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Reincarnation Qestion
- Thread starter Skwim
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susanblange
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susanblange
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@ skwim: You are confusing the soul with the spirit. Most people do. The soul is the body. The Hebrew word for soul is nephesh, and it means "life". The blood is the life of the flesh and earth is called "the land of the living". Ruach is Hebrew for "spirit" and it means breath (inside the body) and wind (outside the body). The spirit enters when we are born and take that first breath. God is a person who created us in his own image and likeness. He created us because he was lonely and the purpose of life is life itself. It is his intent for all of us to go to Heaven when we die and live forever with God. The death of the soul/body is permanent, it is the spirit that lives on after death. Regarding Lucifer, please see Isaiah 14:12-15.
susanblange
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Hell is not permanent. Only in the case of Satan is it permanent. Hell is also not physical torture, it is mental terror. All sin is conceived of in the mind before being acted upon. The punishment will fit the crime. Once your sentence is up, your spirit will be extinguished and you will cease to exist. The death of the soul/body is permanent. If the spirit doesn't go to Heaven, the death of the spirit is also permanent.
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Skwim
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So god just wants to get a few licks in before he exterminates people. How very thoughtful of him.
Reminds me of German concentration camps where prisoners were starved before being exterminated. How very thoughtful of them.
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susanblange
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God destroyed life on earth with Noah's flood. This was because the entire world was wicked and they had corrupted God's way. Only eight people survived. This will happen again, not by a flood, but by fire. I call this
"Judgment Day" because it will affect most of humankind. Judgment Day is the day you die. Only 3% of people will escape and survive, about 210 million people. Isaiah 24:6. A few is 3, but I think it means 3%. It will include those who have committed a deadly sin and those who refuse to repent of their sin. They are called "the guilty".
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Skwim
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Look, if all you have are non sequiturs, save your breath---this is the second you've come up with.
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susanblange
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The second what? There will be three judgments by fire. They are VWD Day, Judgment Day, and the valley of Jehoshaphat which is also called the "valley of decision". This will occur at the end, the death and resurrection of the Messiah. Salvation will come down to belief. Joel 3. Zechariah 14:12.
For that reason I'm very mindful of trying to remember Krishna at the time of my demise, especially if being run over by a tractor-trailer, and call his name, lest I yell something that will make me reincarnate as a pile of elephant dung or a porn star.
Skwim
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The second time you've responded to an issue with a non sequitur. And no, I'm not going to show you where.
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Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
I am a strong atheist. I do not have soul/spirit. I expect that with my death I will cease to exist except as a memory in some people's mind, or in the DNA of my descendants, and that is OK with me. I will go back to my elements. As I like to say, one atom of my body will be there is a flower in England, another will be in a Kangaroo in Australia. With billions of my atoms dispersing everywhere, I will become sort of omnipresent. I have something like 7*10*27 atoms in my body (Google Search), i.e., 7 followed by 27 zeros. Another way of saying this is "seven billion billion billion." Whom are you trying to frighten?
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Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
Rather than worrying about spirit and soul, understand the disintegration of a dead human body. When a Hindu is cremated, it does not take much time, less than half an hour. Water which makes most of the body evaporates quickly and carbon, the third common element turns into Carbon di-oxide. What remains is calcium and oxygen tied in the form of lime from the bones (CaO). That will be put in a river and will emerge again as sandstone (or metamorphic rock if it undergoes heating in Earth's crust) after millions of years. I leave it to you to consider as to what happens to the dead body of a follower of any Abrahamic religion.
Samana Johann
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Householder Skwim wouldn't be right here if he didn't took on it. So the question has to be asked back: Why became another time?
Samana Johann
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Good insight. And now?
Diamond
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Hello,I know this is a month later,sorry I didn't do this sooner,but I am just now looking through some different Threads,and as I was looking around,I picked up on something that laid heavy on my heart! I realized I had made a grave mistake, I was need at that time and not really use to how the comments or post and little re arrows all meant, well I realized the post I read wasn't for me it was for person with little red !!but I reply but with attitude to you!! and the it started with several attitude posting thinking I was replying to the member "shmogie". So I would like to apologize sincerely,and hope you will accept and forgive the mistake and attitude, I'm a very outspoken person,but I am also a person who doesn't mind admitting I was wrong.Also,thank you for standing up for me in that post.
Diamond
Diamond
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Okay, I've read yours posts,you seem pretty sure you have all the knowledge with advents,numbers,stories and etc.
Now,I'm gonna request some evidence that you can tell me all this stuff you been saying is actually gonna happen,or did happen or who said it.
I do hope you have something other then scriptures that are written in the Bible.Because everyone knows that there is no proof those scriptures in the bible,that tell many stories are actually real or fiction for you see back in that time there were on cameras to take pictures of these great events and miracles,No tape recorders or cell phones to record these conversations between Gods people relaying God's orders and conditions for mankind. No video recorders showing God speaking from heaven acknowledging his rules and laws for man to follow. An definitely you sure can't hold a press conference with one of God's disciples ,they've been dead thousands of centuries just like the men who wrote the Bible.And you can't give me a exclusive eye account of anything cause you weren't even born.So were's your proof or evidence that all this stuff is true that you and millions of people been telling humans for centuries?
Now,I'm gonna request some evidence that you can tell me all this stuff you been saying is actually gonna happen,or did happen or who said it.
I do hope you have something other then scriptures that are written in the Bible.Because everyone knows that there is no proof those scriptures in the bible,that tell many stories are actually real or fiction for you see back in that time there were on cameras to take pictures of these great events and miracles,No tape recorders or cell phones to record these conversations between Gods people relaying God's orders and conditions for mankind. No video recorders showing God speaking from heaven acknowledging his rules and laws for man to follow. An definitely you sure can't hold a press conference with one of God's disciples ,they've been dead thousands of centuries just like the men who wrote the Bible.And you can't give me a exclusive eye account of anything cause you weren't even born.So were's your proof or evidence that all this stuff is true that you and millions of people been telling humans for centuries?
Diamond
Member
So,tell me how you know it was the truth?
Tumah
Veteran Member
If it wasn't a lie, then there aren't many other options.
Diamond
Member
Wow, that was dark. I am glad I don't believe that way, I believe the soul lives forever and ever and I love my soul path and looking forward to continue that journey, To me it comforts me about death, I don't even think of it much, and when it happens I know I will be just fine. I think that when God said everlasting life he meant just that.