Hate is a complex idea, and I think it could make for a long discussion. For example, one person's hate is another's indifference. Most certainly people get defensive about their property, their ideas, and it does cause hate, as you say.
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Love For All, Hatred For None
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Hate is a complex idea, and I think it could make for a long discussion. For example, one person's hate is another's indifference. Most certainly people get defensive about their property, their ideas, and it does cause hate, as you say.
Road Warrior
Seeking the middle path..
Disagreed hate is complex. It's very simple: it's a very intense, irrational emotion. Why people hate can be complex, but not the emotion itself.
That is really life. As we all have those choices. It would be hypocritical to forgo one owns obedience, if obediance is required.
The wisdom to not offer solid food when only milk will do is a lesson we must learn. This is a mistake made many times.
The answer to tge question was in the story I posted to you above. In Love for God, Abdul'baha did no compromise obedience to His Faith, he instead lived it. It took 24 years, but in the end the person that hated Abdul'baha was in fact nurtured for 24 years without knowing it and found release from that hate and embraced the Love Abdul'baha had shown in that uncompromising obedience.
Regards Tony
Love will help you find them.
"O SON OF SPIRIT!
My first counsel is this: Possess a pure, kindly and radiant heart, that thine may be a sovereignty ancient, imperishable and everlasting" Hidden Words, Baha'u'llah.
Many forms of Hate and Prejudices will blind us.
Regards Tony
Road Warrior
Seeking the middle path..
I have no doubt love and acceptance are paths to peace. I just doubt any particular dogmatic religion is the only path to that peace.
If they are not, it will be shown to be so.
Meanwhile all the best to you, your family and your community.
Regards Tony
Please don't ever think for one moment that these people represent Christianity! "Thou shalt give me money to live the high life" is not one of Jesus commands.
Road Warrior
Seeking the middle path..
Disagreed. Dogmatic religion is a path, but not the only path to peace. All to often, the followers and proponents of dogmatic religions end up pushing the dogma more than the purpose of the religion itself.
Pushing the dogma IS the purpose of some faiths.
Road Warrior
Seeking the middle path..
I don't but they are the leaders of the Evangelical political movement in the USA with, literally, millions of followers.Please don't ever think for one moment that these people represent Christianity! "Thou shalt give me money to live the high life" is not one of Jesus commands.
Road Warrior
Seeking the middle path..
Which ones?
Road Warrior
Seeking the middle path..
Pushing a belief is common, as this forum often proves. It can be a dogmatic religion or simply a common belief like anarchism and/or atheism; people who seek to destroy with no idea on what should be built in its place.
Matthew 23:13....
"Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because you shut up the Kingdom of the heavens before men; for you yourselves do not go in, neither do you permit those on their way in to go in."
Nothing new, you see.....
Road Warrior
Seeking the middle path..
Yet the millions of Christians in the US not only condone them, but support them. Why not condemn them as false prophets and perverters of Christ's message?
Baha'u'llah put it this way;
"YE THAT ARE FOOLISH, YET HAVE A NAME TO BE WISE!
Wherefore do ye wear the guise of shepherds, when inwardly ye have become wolves, intent upon My flock? Ye are even as the star, which riseth ere the dawn, and which, though it seem radiant and luminous, leadeth the wayfarers of My city astray into the paths of perdition." Hidden Words
Regards Tony
dybmh
דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
Perhaps this will help?
I didn't read the story. If you can understand why I did not read it; you will also understand the point that I am trying to make.
dybmh
דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
Respectfully... what you are describing is not a religious faith; it is a marketing campaign.
Oh.
dybmh
דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
I think you nailed it, Vinayaka.
Love for One is natural for almost any person. Either loving themselves or loving their preferred god(s) and/or prophet(s).
Love for all, begins with wanting to nurture someone else in harmony with that other person's priorities and preferences. And that takes wisdom and individual attention. You said it so well.
If you take a look at my offer to Tony, it was sincere. I am offering to help him, because I do think he is a good person.
But it is also an example of what I think "love for all" looks like in action.
It is a desire to nurture ( "if I can help you, I am at your service" ) that is in harmony with the other person's priorities and preferences ( "It really has nothing to do with what your purpose is. I may or may not agree with it at all." )
It is , as you said, individualized ( "If you want to discuss it further, I am happy to do so. Please send me a PM." ) And I didn't send quotes which may have been counter-productive. This was my attempt at wisdom.
I am offering assistance, but I am not pushing it on him. I am not trying to change him. I am trying to offer help in the form of intellectual, emotional, spiritual support only if it is harmonious with Tony's priorities and preferences. But if it is not wanted, I will try not to be pushy. Emphasis on **try**. Like I said. I am very new to this.
That is my version of Love for All demonstrated in my offer to help Tony including the elements you spoke about. I thank you.