Careful of that blind justice and that group W bench there with the hairy eyeballs.
I claim my fruball....
I claim my fruball....
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I Want To kill. I Mean, I Wanna, I Wanna Kill. Kill....
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And now that song is stuck in my head....thank's for that.
There's worse to be stuck in your head...I leave it up to you to find it for yourself...
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Those are basically ineffective against the AK-47. And, realistically, low tech warfare is something the US military struggles against. Improvised explosives seemed the greatest danger during the Afghanistan-Iraq war, just as using the natural surroundings proved advantageous for the Vietcong (slingshots vs aerial bombings - it didn't turn out as you'd think).
War is just bad all around. I certainly do not look forward to engaging in anymore anytime soon.
But
For those of the soft and naive nature.
The global stage is a dog eat dog world. If you refuse to, use a firm hand, you only successfully get yourself killed. While I do not favor war, i do favor my own life over theirs. If I am forced to chose to have my life ended or end the life of the person who would end mine. The choice is easy to make.
shmogie
Well-Known Member
Loved the song, loved the movie, but no, I didn´t make the connection.
I guess if you were convinced that NK was going to go nuts and start firing nukes in every direction, imminently, then a first strike policy would seem appropriate.
We don´t need nukes for Iran, they have no nukes to go crazy with, yet.
We had better deal with them to ensure they don´t get nukes, soon. Diplomatically, or by flattening them with conventional weapons. It has to be done, else the craziest government since hitler in his last year will be in a position to start a nuclear war.
Russia will take it and like it, or not, but they will take it.
Dr. Strangelove is right in this case.
shmogie
Well-Known Member
Those weren´t slingshots that killed my friends.
The only way low tech warfare is a problem is if we commit ground forces and want to take territory.
We don´t. We want to destroy all infrastructure used in atomic bomb making and delivery.
Air strikes and destruction of their naval forces would get the job done. They have no jungle to hide in, and target identification and delivery precision has come a long, long way in 50 years,
I have collected a bit of evidence on how Americans feel about Iran right now. It consists of twenty-seven 8 x 10 colored glossy photographs with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of
each one explainin' what each one was and how it is evidence of American public opinion on Iran. I cannot link these, but Officer Obie is on his way to your location to deliver them.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
They have tons of people and caves to hide in. How long did it take to find Bin Laden and Sadam, again? It wasn't quick or easy. And you want radioactive substances leaked into the environment? That is absolute madness. Like it or not, its a matter of global safety that you cant just destroy a nuclear facility with bombs. That can even release radioactive toxins into the jet stream if things go really bad. And your also going to still get thousands of innocents who want nothing to do with it killed. Doing that primes people for extremism.
This violence would have real consequences. All it takes is a remedil survey of the Middle East over the past 100 years to clearly see bombing them is doing the same thing again and expecting a different outcome. And many of them do want to die in combat against infidels. How is bombing them going to combat that very problematic issue?
shmogie
Well-Known Member
Of course you can. Israel knocked out a nuclear reactor with no residual radiation. Low grade uranium can be destroyed.
Precision bombing doeśn´t kill thousands.
Denying them nuclear weapons is critical to the safety of the world, no consequence of a precision bombing campaign could possibly be worse than a nuclear armed Iran.
An inevitable nuclear arms race with the sunni countries demanding and getting nukes would put them in the hands of numerous tin pot leaders.
Is this what you really want ? A middle East bristling with nuclear bombs and missiles ?
Irans leaders have already said they will destroy Israel, you think they are just joking ? They are looney and irrational by our standards,
They launch small nukes to destroy Israel, who will immediately launch against them and you have the beginning of nuclear destruction of a greater part of the earth, all because no one was willing to do what is necessary to block the mad mullahs.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Its track record isnt so great.
We might as well assume that happened when Trump ended the Iran agreement, meaning suddenly they were under no supervision or restrictions.
Isreal and Pakastan already have them, with India not being that far away.
Salvador
RF's Swedenborgian
I'd wouldn't want a land invasion of Iran, I'd just like to disabled their large weapons capabilities from the air.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Then the next ship they attack they sink.
Salvador
RF's Swedenborgian
A naval battle between the U.S. and Iran would turn out very badly for Iran.
International sanctions against Iran have significantly impaired Iranian naval power.
https://warisboring.com/all-the-times-the-iranian-navy-got-its-***-kicked/
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Do you mean India having them and not being that far from the Middle East or do you mean that India is close to having nuclear weapons? I am assuming the former, since India has had nuclear weapons for some time.
As I've oft said, I want effective weapons.
And peace.
I'm keeping an eye out for him.
That may be the only way to have peace in an aggressive world. Utopia is fine in theory, but I do not think it would work in practice.
I keep an eye out for him too, ever since he got all that new equipment from Homeland Security.
My utopia is filled with weapons.
But no one attacks anyone else.