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The Second Coming

sooda

Veteran Member
You can't be serious

Yep.. I believe Jesus over Hal Lindsey.

There are three primary theories on the identity of the two witnesses in Revelation: (1) Moses and Elijah, (2) Enoch and Elijah, and (3) two unknown believers whom God calls to be His witnesses in the end times.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Yep.. I believe Jesus over Hal Lindsey.

There are three primary theories on the identity of the two witnesses in Revelation: (1) Moses and Elijah, (2) Enoch and Elijah, and (3) two unknown believers whom God calls to be His witnesses in the end times.

I do not go by someone's theory,
I go by what Christ Jesus has put down in his book of Revelation and that's all.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
I do not go by someone's theory,
I go by what Christ Jesus has put down in his book of Revelation and that's all.

Well Jesus said it would happen BEFORE the next generation.. 40 years. The Scofield Heresy has become very popular with the Evangelicals and fundamentalists.. Then Hal Lindsey made a fortune promoting bad theology.
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
Its just not that complicated. He addressed the 7 churches.

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The letter was originally a Jewish writing without Jesus or the Apostles. Apocryphal literature was VERY popular for about 300 years.
Perhaps so, but there is mystical or esoteric meaning apart from the literal, God will reveal the meaning if you contemplate in the light of God.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Well Jesus said it would happen BEFORE the next generation.. 40 years. The Scofield Heresy has become very popular with the Evangelicals and fundamentalists.. Then Hal Lindsey made a fortune promoting bad theology.

There is no where that Jesus said before the next generation.

What Jesus did say
in the book of Mark 13:30--
" Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done"

Jesus also said in Matthew 24:34
"34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled"

You do know, Jesus is pointing ahead to the future, to the generation that will witness the beginning and end of the Tribulation which we are now heading into.
For some unknown reason, people listen to much to man's teachings and not the teachings of Christ Jesus.

As to how you come with the next generation is anyone's guess
As you can see there is no where in Mark 13:30, and Matthew 24:34 that Jesus made any mentioning of the next generation.

Jesus is pointing ahead to the future of the generation that will witness everything that Jesus given in Mark 13 and Matthew 24 and Luke 21.
All these things will happen which is still future from us and that generation will witness all those things that Jesus given in Prophecy
Mark 13, Matthew 24 and Luke 21.
 
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sooda

Veteran Member
There is no where that Jesus said before the next generation.

What Jesus did say
in the book of Mark 13:30--
" Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done"

Jesus also said in Matthew 24:34
"34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled"
You do know, Jesus is pointing ahead to the future, to the generation that will witness the beginning and end of the Tribulation which we are now heading into.
For some unknown reason, people listen to much to man's teachings and not the teachings of Christ Jesus.

As to how you come with the next generation is anyone's guess

The tribulation was over in 70 AD after 42 months.

"34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled"

Rev 1:1-3 — “ 1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show to His bond-servants, the things which must soon take place;
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
The tribulation was over in 70 AD after 42 months.

"34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled"

Rev 1:1-3 — “ 1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show to His bond-servants, the things which must soon take place;

Yeah and that generation is us today that are witnessing all those things that Jesus gave in Prophecy in Mark 13, Matthew 24 and Luke 21.

Yeah and Revelation 1:1-3 and those things are happening now.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
Yeah and that generation is us today that are witnessing all those things that Jesus gave in Prophecy in Mark 13, Matthew 24 and Luke 21.

Yeah and Revelation 1:1-3 and those things are happening now.

A generation is 40 years in scripture and it all happened 40 years after the crucifixion. This heresy was made popular during the Dust Bowl years and the Great Depression with people who had very little education.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
A generation is 40 years in scripture and it all happened 40 years after the crucifixion. This heresy was made popular during the Dust Bowl years and the Great Depression with people who had very little education.

Just to let you know, the generation that Jesus is talking about is our generation of today.
Not some 40 years after his crucifixion.

You really need to slow down and read the whole chapters of Mark 13 and Matthew 24 and Luke 21.
Those things are happening now

And learn the parable of the fig tree, that Jesus spoke about in Mark 13:28--"Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When her branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is near"

No doubt you probably have no idea what the parable of the fig tree represents and who.
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
LOLOL.. and you have special discernment.
No, the truth comes from on high, not from the minds of men, particularly the dogma of the prostituted teachings of corrupted religion. That which the human mind can not conceive of, that is what awaits those who love God.
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
You can find it in Revelation chapter 11.
When God's two witnesses are killed and then after 3 1/2 days God calls them back up to heaven and then Christ Jesus returns.

This prophecy has to happen first, before Christ Jesus can return.
That when this last prophecy happens the tribulation is over and Christ Jesus returns.
Perhaps so, in any event if one expects salvation, the time is now to correct the errors of our ways to be worthy of being in that number. Knowledge itself does not necessarily mean we have arrived, but a degree of worthiness that meets the criteria of divine judgement. Are you there yet?
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Perhaps so, in any event if one expects salvation, the time is now to correct the errors of our ways to be worthy of being in that number. Knowledge itself does not necessarily mean we have arrived, but a degree of worthiness that meets the criteria of divine judgement. Are you there yet?


Knowledge means you know how things are coming down and be prepared for the day of Judgement.
Have you corrected the error of your way, do you, yourself know what is to happen that brings about the second coming of Christ Jesus.
Have you any idea what is happening on that day and hour that brings about the second coming of Christ Jesus.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
No, the truth comes from on high, not from the minds of men, particularly the dogma of the prostituted teachings of corrupted religion. That which the human mind can not conceive of, that is what awaits those who love God.


do you understand what Spiritual discernment is
In the book of Mark 13, Jesus Christ foretold what the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is
And who can commit it
And when it will happen.
It's all there in Mark 13
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
Knowledge means you know how things are coming down and be prepared for the day of Judgement.
Have you corrected the error of your way, do you, yourself know what is to happen that brings about the second coming of Christ Jesus.
Have you any idea what is happening on that day and hour that brings about the second coming of Christ Jesus.
It is not until the you who knows knowledge knows what they themselves are, that the prerequisite understand exists to ask the ultimate question, "Who am I"? Knowing what you are is not something that you can get from a book, or any other external source. It requires to go inside to the source of who you are. Hint...Know ye not that you are temples of the living God.
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
do you understand what Spiritual discernment is
In the book of Mark 13, Jesus Christ foretold what the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is
And who can commit it
And when it will happen.
It's all there in Mark 13
You are mistaking conceptual knowledge for real understanding, refer to my last post to you...Who are you really, not conceptually but really?
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
It is not until the you who knows knowledge knows what they themselves are, that the prerequisite understand exists to ask the ultimate question, "Who am I"? Knowing what you are is not something that you can get from a book, or any other external source. It requires to go inside to the source of who you are. Hint...Know ye not that you are temples of the living God.

Your really not making any sense
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
Your really not making any sense
So you claim to know the bible, but who knows the knower and what is known about the knower?

I don't see that as not making sense. Generally we don't accept claims in the news unless the source can be verified as being real. What or who is the source of the knower Faithofchristian ?
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
So you claim to know the bible, but who knows the knower and what is known about the knower?

I don't see that as not making sense. Generally we don't accept claims in the news unless the source can be verified as being real. What or who is the source of the knower Faithofchristian ?


As there is only one that knows all things.
And he gives to those to know all things.
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
As there is only one that knows all things.
And he gives to those to know all things.
True as a conceptual perception, but there is more to it. Without God's presence in you, you would not be, so logically God is the source of you. If God is your source, it follows you are an expression of God. If you then love God with all your heart, soul, and mind, the apparent separation between you and God becomes less. Perhaps a divine marriage or divine union is possible? But then there is still more to it, the actual practice that may bring it about, one can't just turn love on at will at the beginning.
 
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