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Trump says Iran made ‘big mistake’ by taking down US drone
- Thread starter Cooky
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Shad
Veteran Member
So the same failure in considering the USSR in the 80s is not even close to the USA in 2019. Does the US have grain shortages causing food lines? Nope. No long term projections, no data, nothing. You accepted sophistry and propaganda as an argument, nothing more
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Or my quick search didnt turn up much because most the results turned up are about the current Trump-Iran situation, and its not propaganda or sophistry but what Bin Ladens plan actually was. Go start debating Truthers if you really want to educate yourself about it (its how I learned about Bin Ladens plan, anyways).
Road Warrior
Seeking the middle path..
That wasn't bin Laden's doing. We've done that to ourselves. Osama bin Laden could have died fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan back in the 1980s and the US would still have its present problems.
Road Warrior
Seeking the middle path..
You mean "Christians" who disagree with you and were against the war in Iraq? Awesome!
Road Warrior
Seeking the middle path..
LOL. No doubt you assume all sorts of things that make people laugh.
The fact remains the US hasn't been bombing Iran for over 30 years. The fact remains it wasn't the US that divided up the Ottoman Empire after WWI. The fact remains the region has been a basket case long before it became a Proxy War middle-ground in the late 1950s between the US and the USSR. The fact remains the region has been a theocratic battleground between the Sunnis and the Shias for over a 1000 years and, if all the Westerners left today, it'd still be at war with itself.
My post# 115 was wrong so I’m just correcting it here.
You are welcome to just ignore it and move on;
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Wars that killed millions
War------------------------------date-------------deaths
First Jewish-Roman war; 66-73ad; 1,358,400
Jewish Roman Wars; 66-136ad; 2,000,000
Spanish conquest of the Aztec Empire; 1519-1632; 24,300,000
Spanish conquest of Yucatan; 1519-1595; 1,460,000
Spanish conquest of the Inca Empire; 1533-1672; 8,400,000
French Wars of Religion; 1562-1598; 4,000,000
Japanese invasions of Korea; 1592-1598; 1,000,000
Transition from Ming to Qing; 1616-1683; 25,000,000
Thirty Year’s War; 1618-1648; 11,500,000
Mughal-Maratha Wars; 1658-1707; 5,000,000
War of the Spanish Succession; 1701-1714; 1,251,000
Seven Year’s War; 1756-1763; 1,400,000
Napoleonic Wars; 1803-1815; 7,000,000
Taiping Rebellion; 1850-1864; 100,000,000
Panthay Rebellion; 1856-1873; 1,000,000
Indian Rebellion of 1857; 1857-1858; 10,000,000
American Civil War; 1861-1865; 1,000,000
Dungan Revolt; 1862-1877; 12,000,000
Paraguayan War; 1864-1870; 1,200,000
Mexican Revolution; 1910-1920; 2,000,000
World War 1; 1914-1918; 65,000,000
Russian Civil War; 1917-1922; 9,000,000
Chinese Civil War; 1927-1949; 11,692,000
Spanish Civil War; 1936-1939; 1,000,000
Second Sino-Japanese War; 1937-1945; 25,000,000
World War II; 1939-1945; 85,000,000
Korean War; 1950-1953; 1,200,000
Vietnam War; 1955-1972; 3,800,000
Nigerian Civil War; 1967-1970; 3,000,000
Ethiopian Civil War; 1974-1991; 1,500,000
War in Afghanistan; 1978-; 2,000,000
Soviet-Afghan War; 1979-1989; 2,000,000
Second Sudanese Civil War; 1983-2005; 2,000,000
Iraq War; 2003-2011; 1,120,000
List of wars by death toll - Wikipedia
Total 413,900,000 million
Above are the wars where over a million died, there have been several dozen others not listed that were less than a million
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You are welcome to just ignore it and move on;
-Wars that killed millions
War------------------------------date-------------deaths
First Jewish-Roman war; 66-73ad; 1,358,400
Jewish Roman Wars; 66-136ad; 2,000,000
Spanish conquest of the Aztec Empire; 1519-1632; 24,300,000
Spanish conquest of Yucatan; 1519-1595; 1,460,000
Spanish conquest of the Inca Empire; 1533-1672; 8,400,000
French Wars of Religion; 1562-1598; 4,000,000
Japanese invasions of Korea; 1592-1598; 1,000,000
Transition from Ming to Qing; 1616-1683; 25,000,000
Thirty Year’s War; 1618-1648; 11,500,000
Mughal-Maratha Wars; 1658-1707; 5,000,000
War of the Spanish Succession; 1701-1714; 1,251,000
Seven Year’s War; 1756-1763; 1,400,000
Napoleonic Wars; 1803-1815; 7,000,000
Taiping Rebellion; 1850-1864; 100,000,000
Panthay Rebellion; 1856-1873; 1,000,000
Indian Rebellion of 1857; 1857-1858; 10,000,000
American Civil War; 1861-1865; 1,000,000
Dungan Revolt; 1862-1877; 12,000,000
Paraguayan War; 1864-1870; 1,200,000
Mexican Revolution; 1910-1920; 2,000,000
World War 1; 1914-1918; 65,000,000
Russian Civil War; 1917-1922; 9,000,000
Chinese Civil War; 1927-1949; 11,692,000
Spanish Civil War; 1936-1939; 1,000,000
Second Sino-Japanese War; 1937-1945; 25,000,000
World War II; 1939-1945; 85,000,000
Korean War; 1950-1953; 1,200,000
Vietnam War; 1955-1972; 3,800,000
Nigerian Civil War; 1967-1970; 3,000,000
Ethiopian Civil War; 1974-1991; 1,500,000
War in Afghanistan; 1978-; 2,000,000
Soviet-Afghan War; 1979-1989; 2,000,000
Second Sudanese Civil War; 1983-2005; 2,000,000
Iraq War; 2003-2011; 1,120,000
List of wars by death toll - Wikipedia
Total 413,900,000 million
Above are the wars where over a million died, there have been several dozen others not listed that were less than a million
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Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Why should I take your post seriously when again you get my position wrong as I actually disnt bring this subject up, and Im well aware America wasnt really involved in the drawing up of those borders, but they have been extensively involved in the post-Ottoman ME (a point I did bring up here), and you must apparently think I think Iran is the only place where people call America the Great Satan, which are places Uncle Sam has bombed, staged coups, or otherwise been too heavily and violently involved for about 30,-40 years (another claim I did bring up in this thread).
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Do you miss the part where he destroyed three American towers and damaged several others, killed thousands of Americans in the process, sucessfully baiting Uncle Sam into a long and unwinnable war that would amount to an economic leach on America?
There are no Christians who disagree with we and were against the war in Iraq.
But there are lots who supported the war in Iraq and all sorts of other Pro-Death policies. That's how Bush II finally got elected. Christians voting for war.
Just like now. Trump's biggest batch of support is in the conservative Christian community.
Tom
Road Warrior
Seeking the middle path..
Since you've posted, literally, multiple assumptions about me, I've reached the point where nothing you say surprises me. Best of luck!
Road Warrior
Seeking the middle path..
Truly awesome. I don't believe it, but I'm amazed that you actually believe that to be true.
I do.
I was out in the street carrying signs. I helped organize letter writing campaigns.
It was mostly Christians supporting the Bush Wars. They were the big problem.
Pro-Death Christians, largely the same people supporting Trump.
Tom
The Soviets had a big advantage over Iran....nuclear weapons.Nothing. It's international airspace. I've watched Soviet Badgers fly off the coast of Miami beach during the Cold War. No one shot them down. Why? Same answer - International Airspace.
For those unfamiliar with the concept: https://www.icao.int/APAC/Documents/edocs/International Airspace and Civil-Military Cooperation.pdf
Something like this:
This caused our more cautious response.
sooda
Veteran Member
Trump loves drama and big headlines.. He blew it when he cancelled the nuclear agreement, but he's obsessed with Obama.
If you really believe Osama bin Laden had the knowledge and money to pull this off; I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
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Trump's obsessed with Hillary. Hillary has been out of the political arena for over two years and still Trump will bring up her name for no rime or reason; over & over. Face it, Trump admires her.
Trump's in love
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sooda
Veteran Member
Trump's obsessed with Hillary. Hillary has been out of the political arena for over two years and still Trump will bring up her name for no rime or reason; over & over. Face it, Trump admires her.
Trump's in love
Nope.. Trump has been obsessed with revenge his whole life. He's famous for it.
sooda
Veteran Member
If you really believe Osama bin Laden had the knowledge and money to pull this off; I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
You mean hijacking a plane?
You must be a conspiracy buff.