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What did you have in mind? Swords, crusades, inquisitions, burnings at the stake...Have you ever thought of a more Christian approach?
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What did you have in mind? Swords, crusades, inquisitions, burnings at the stake...Have you ever thought of a more Christian approach?
I only placed 3rd last year.Is that last bit your entry for the understatement of the year competition?
But your "voting works...only not always for the better" surely would have won hands down in 2016 - on both sides of the Atlantic!I only placed 3rd last year.
Aim'n high for 2019.
How did Iran respond when we shot down their civilian flight 655?
(We killed 290 people, 66 of whom were children.)
We've lost an unmanned drone which might or might not have been in their airspace.
Perhaps we should show at least as much restraint as they have.
And we must value their sovereignty, lives & welfare too...not dismiss them as irrelevant.
Otherwise we've demonstrated the necessity of their gaining nuclear weapons & delivery systems.
I wouldn't be surprised if our leadership never even heard of it.I can't believe some of the war-mongering posts on this thread.
I guess that this is how the last war got going........
I's forgotten about flight 655.
I remember the Iranian hostage crisis when they took over our embassy and paraded our people around in blindfolds in front of hostile crowds. That happened under Carter. That's what cost him a second term.
Believe me, I have no love for Iran. But if we weren't willing to go to war with Iran back then, why now?
Boss Tweed never anticipated Trump.
Loathed though he be, Trump is clearly someone who rose to
power without any cabal placing him there. Voters did that.
So I say that voting works...just not always for the better.
I keep hearing about this MIC, but no one has ever presented
any evidence that this super secret super power even exists.
Btw, I worked in the defense industry, & never saw this fabled
control over government. What have you seen?
Do you vote?
Attack a foreign country...kill them off....steal their resources...& sell'm cheap
to the teeming masses at home, eh. How could that go wrong!
I thought that a very dodgy US mission in to Iranian territory went horribly wrong, with aircraft crashing and many lives lost. Didn't Carter resign over that?
I wouldn't be surprised if our leadership never even heard of it.
Eisenhower was a politician.Eisenhower mentioned it, and it's been used in a variety of contexts.
Which contractors bribed which officials?It's not unheard or anything unprecedented for government officials to take bribes to give favorable arrangements to government contractors. It's happened in lower levels of government and other departments. I don't see what would make the Defense Department so immune to this kind of thing. And I doubt any of those companies would tell their employees if they were involved in any shady deals.
If leaders are picked by the MIC, why bother?Of course I do.
The only potential benefit I see for Trump in attacking Iran isIt was just a hypothetical. You were asking how could it happen and how Trump could benefit. That outlines one possible way.
International guidance isn't all it's cracked up to be either.We do this as well, you know.
...have done, anyway.
And our countries seem to ignore International guidance and opinion whenever it suits us.
If something bloody stupid happens, and when (some) folks are telling us all how things went wrong, they might benefit from being made to read posts that they wtrote here, now.
Nonsense, this isn't an action movie. It is easy for you and me to sit back and talk casually about war but there is nothing casual about killing people. We need to return to the negotiating table and start talking this out.
We do this as well, you know.
...have done, anyway.
And our countries seem to ignore International guidance and opinion whenever it suits us.
If something bloody stupid happens, and when (some) folks are telling us all how things went wrong, they might benefit from being made to read posts that they wtrote here, now.
Can you bomb dead civilians back to life? Or repair infrastructure with bombs? Heal psychological trauma with bombs? Enough with these emotionally stunted G.I. Joe/Rambo ego gratification fantasies. This is real life.
Wars ranked by total number of U.S. military deaths
Rank,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,War.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Years.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,total deaths
1 American Revolutionary War ----------------- 2,500,000
2 War of 1812–15 ------------------------------------ 8,000,000
3 Mexican–American War 1846–48 ---------- 21,406,000
4 American Civil War 1861–65 ----------------- 31,443,000
5 World War I 1917–18 ------------------------- 103,268,000
6 World War II 1941–45 ------------------------ 133,402,000
7 Korean War 1950–53 ------------------------- 151,325,000
8 Vietnam War 1961–75 ----------------------- 179,323,175
9 Iraq War 2003–2011 --------------------------294,043,000
10 Trump's war <:>?
The problem with people like @Landon Caeli is that he is on the internet suggesting war like its Call of Duty. Until he has an M-16 in his hand and is actually getting shot at by 5.56 rounds I wouldn't take his opinion serious.
Drinking Trump's kool-aid hook, line and sinker, are you?...I think it's time we begin war.
That led to a myriad forms of disaster back in the 1950s, not least among those the ruination of the moral standing of the USA in Iran. There is absolutely no reason to expect it to work any better now.They're a hostile regime. Their current administration can be easily replaced.