leov
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Keep researching, if you are serious. I am not going to make conclusion .
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Why do atheist believe something can come from nothing?
- Thread starter Nimos
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TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
If your point is that humans in general have a tendency to be religious, then your point is correct.
If your point is that because atheists are a minority, therefor theism is correct, then you are engaging in fallacious reasoning - argument from popularity in particular.
leov
Well-Known Member
There is anatomical reason. We have organs to sense spiritual 'broadcast', organs that too many lost function of or in a process of losing. 99.99% of us.
leov
Well-Known Member
https://www.pnas.org/content/99/25/15904
"Air pollution induces heritable DNA mutations " just keep counting pollution that affected us
Bob the Unbeliever
Well-Known Member
Indeed..... how, exactly? Be specific. What is this "spirituality" and is it reality based? Or is it magic based?
So far-- magic has never been a valid hypothesis.
So you are saying Einstein was correct in his though that god is of the mind?
leov
Well-Known Member
To simplify it, just a dimension of different density. Magic? Who knows?
I have no thoughts on trump other than he is an slimy american gropy boy
I did provide dawkins own words, so who cares what haters think
What you seem to be saying is that freedom of speech is fine for those you agree with?
As for spending his money, he has a long, long way to go before he can match your lot.
Kenneth Copeland, Pat Robertson, Benny Hinn, Joel Osteen ring any bells on where the good believers half a billion dollars have gone
A Vestigial Mote
Well-Known Member
You're obviously not to be taken seriously. I am confident that you could not convincingly link the disparate sources I positively KNOW you would cite as "evidence" for your wild claims even if you tried. Which is why you aren't going to try.
There is basically nothing to research, honestly. I mean seriously - what am I going to search for? Articles pertaining to atheism being a symptom of a "deteriorated" mind? Give me a damn break.
Bob the Unbeliever
Well-Known Member
Citation needed.
Audie
Veteran Member
You sure that is what is needed, with such garbage?
Bob the Unbeliever
Well-Known Member
Congratulations! You have invented a sentence that is internally self-refuting.
That is to say, the sentence above, as written, has no usable meaning. It's akin to saying "1 - 1" except it's not even that useful.
Worse-- it relates to nothing in actual reality, as is commonly known.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
I think you mistyped the thread title.
I think it should read, "Why do Theists believe something can come from Nothing?"
I think it should read, "Why do Theists believe something can come from Nothing?"
You are, of course, welcome to be as flippant and rude as you'd like, if you think it helps your argument. I don't, frankly.Blah de blah de blah. Are we talking about God or your grandmother's underpants?
Strawmaning the topic is inexcusable, yet you seem to think that a strawman is validation of your position, this is hilarious. Can you do anything else than strawman people?
Do you have an argument here or are you just going to continue defending your use of fallacies?
I see your methodology here, this is wonderful. Fallacies on top of fallacies on top of fallacies prove that fallacies are sound logic.
Placing a non-sequitur and an appeal-to-ridicule on top of two Strawman's does not make your position valid.
Are you now admitting God after that 'leaning tower of Pisa' of fallacy-stacking? that is what I would call an ambitious feat!
No wonder you don't
Meanwhile, it is most certainly not a strawman. You made a rather specific claim about "God" which you cannot know, which is not settled fact, and which a great many people disagree with. ("God is neither subject or object, it is the source behind the existence of those quantities. When there is no subject or object, then there is only God.") That this happens to be your opinion, your belief, even your faith is neither here nor there when it comes to whether it can be said to be a factual statement.
The rest of what I said, to which you enjoyed responding so rudely, is also true. You yourself suggested that to "know God" you must put a lot of "thought into the concept of God." And yet I maintain that is entirely inadequate. Whatever conclusions you might come to are based on:
what other people thought and wrote about God
what you think about what they wrote
Nothing, not a single thing, is based on any actual study or examination of God itself, and as a result, it is entirely possible to come to any conclusions that seem good to you, as so many others have done and seem good to them, though strangely, they are often so very different.
You are perfectly welcome not to like my thoughts and my viewpoints, but do yourself a favour: try to be a little less rude. It really doesn't look good on you, and does nothing to advance your case.
Bob the Unbeliever
Well-Known Member
Audie
Veteran Member
Crows or course ignore scarecrows.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
and all believers have an ….idea.....about God's form
Bob the Unbeliever
Well-Known Member
Thief
Rogue Theologian
Bob the Unbeliever
Well-Known Member
Citation needed. Conjecture. Projection of yet another strawman...