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Is it good or is it bad?

Enoch07

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
atanu said:
Muslims are the world's largest growing religious group, according to Pew Research, increasing twice as fast as the world population. While the world's population will likely increase by 32% in the ensuing decades, the number of Muslims will possibly grow by 70%, rising from 1.8 billion in 2015 to around 3 billion in 2060.

Is religion dying? A look at shifting demographics.
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It's mostly due to birthrates dropping for most of the world.

Muslims are the only ones with a sustainable birthrate at this time. That is they are the only ones having large families anymore. Most of the western world, is hanging about 2-2.5 kids per family. This is unsustainable. The avg Muslim family is at 6-7.5 kids per family. Last I checked they are the only group with a positive birth rate.

Fertility Rate

I don't think it's about fertility though. I think it's about peoples choices. Most of us in the west (U.S. Canada, Europe) only have small families or no family so that we can focus on careers, and ourselves. Good news is we have a hundred years or so sort it out before society collapses due to not enough people to make civilized society, as we know it, exist.
 
Hockeycowboy

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
atanu said:
Muslims are the world's largest growing religious group, according to Pew Research, increasing twice as fast as the world population. While the world's population will likely increase by 32% in the ensuing decades, the number of Muslims will possibly grow by 70%, rising from 1.8 billion in 2015 to around 3 billion in 2060.

Is religion dying? A look at shifting demographics.
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Just crazy!

Just did a Google search. "Which religion is most violent", first article on the subject was about Islam!

Why Islam? Of the three great monotheistic religions only one did not go through the Enlightenment » The Moral Arc

I think the violence is an attraction for some converts.
Islam is mostly growing through members having babies, I know, but can't discount the violent aspect as a draw for some.

So sad!
 
dybmh

dybmh

דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
It's not just birth rate; people are converting to Islam more than other religions. Is it good or bad? I don't know. It probably depends on which version of Islam.
 
Nakosis

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
atanu said:
Muslims are the world's largest growing religious group, according to Pew Research, increasing twice as fast as the world population. While the world's population will likely increase by 32% in the ensuing decades, the number of Muslims will possibly grow by 70%, rising from 1.8 billion in 2015 to around 3 billion in 2060.

Is religion dying? A look at shifting demographics.
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Who knows what Islam is going to be in 2060. Maybe it's leadership will be benevolent and tolerant. Maybe it won't. I just hope they don't force anyone to accept their beliefs about God. Atheists have always been a minority. One concept of God becomes more popular, meh. As long as people are willing to keep their delusions to themselves, no skin off my teeth.
 
Polymath257

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
If they convert to a type of Islam that encourages human diversity, freedom to pursue personal goals, and acknowledges minority rights, it is good.

If they are converting to a version that encourages terrorism, closed mindedness, and hatred, then it is bad.

But I could say the same about conversion to any other belief system.
 
Spirit of Light

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
atanu said:
Muslims are the world's largest growing religious group, according to Pew Research, increasing twice as fast as the world population. While the world's population will likely increase by 32% in the ensuing decades, the number of Muslims will possibly grow by 70%, rising from 1.8 billion in 2015 to around 3 billion in 2060.

Is religion dying? A look at shifting demographics.
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It is either good or bad, It is just a part of how things evolve in the world today.
Sometimes African is the area there is most development in population, sometimes it is China, and sometimes it is the Arabic world and Islam that arise the most, then it is the spreading of the Islamic religion that has the fasted development, just as it was Christianity before. So totally normal development.
 
Altfish

Altfish

Veteran Member
In the UK the fastest growing 'religion' is non-belief. Something approaching 50% of 18-24 year olds don't believe in a god.
Islam is the fastest growing but from a low base, boosted by birth rates and immigration. Christianity is dying, only held up by immigrants
 
corynski

corynski

Reality First!
Premium Member
Altfish said:
In the UK the fastest growing 'religion' is non-belief. Something approaching 50% of 18-24 year olds don't believe in a god.
Islam is the fastest growing but from a low base, boosted by birth rates and immigration. Christianity is dying, only held up by immigrants
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Altfish said:
In the UK the fastest growing 'religion' is non-belief. Something approaching 50% of 18-24 year olds don't believe in a god.
Islam is the fastest growing but from a low base, boosted by birth rates and immigration. Christianity is dying, only held up by immigrants
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What has caught my attention is your initial statement regarding the concept of 'non-belief', for as an atheist, yes, I have non-belief in gods and the supernatural, but that is completely overshadowed by beliefs I do have, such as those regarding science and the nature of reality. Once one's mind is released from the constraints of a single cultural belief system, with it's single god and holy book, then a universe of ideas and beliefs become possible, as the mind is permitted to function as intended, open and with minimal cultural constraints. Religions are cultural artifices, created by humans as limitations and restrictions on consciousness, in an effort to make better people, using the methods of the past, but that unfortunately incorporate the frailties and failures of the past also.
 
sooda

sooda

Veteran Member
sooda

sooda

Veteran Member
Hockeycowboy said:
Just crazy!

Just did a Google search. "Which religion is most violent", first article on the subject was about Islam!

Why Islam? Of the three great monotheistic religions only one did not go through the Enlightenment » The Moral Arc

I think the violence is an attraction for some converts.
Islam is mostly growing through members having babies, I know, but can't discount the violent aspect as a draw for some.

So sad!
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The birth rate among Muslims has been going down for 20 years.. and the age of women getting married is going up.
 
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