Would sharks and T Rex buried together lean toward the flood?

Subduction Zone said:

Do you have any education in the sciences? Let's start off with how streams erode the landscape. Streams have three general "ages". The first, the youthful stage is river that is moving fairly rapidly. These are found in areas of high relief, in other words steep slopes. The river will cut a fairly straight line. Fast flow in a river means straight lines. As the slope lessens and the stream will enter its mature stage. U shaped valleys with minimal turning. As the slope lessens even more and the river slows it will form meanders. Meanders are the "old age" of streams. The river slowly erodes the landscape with oxbows forming and sometimes cutting themselves off.

https://sswm.info/sites/default/files/reference_attachments/IMMOR 2006 Classification Rivers.pdf

If one has a steep gradient and a high load of sediment one can get braided streams, those can form in rapidly moving water, but they have no true meanders. Often creationists mistake one for the other but one can see the difference. Braided stream:

Meander:

Sometimes a meander is established and either sea level drops or the land is raised. Here is a tributary to the Colorado that flood believers cannot explain:

That could not have formed in a flood and I will be happy to go over with you why that is the case.

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Subduction Zone said:

Do you have any education in the sciences? Let's start off with how streams erode the landscape. Streams have three general "ages". The first, the youthful stage is river that is moving fairly rapidly. These are found in areas of high relief, in other words steep slopes. The river will cut a fairly straight line. Fast flow in a river means straight lines. As the slope lessens and the stream will enter its mature stage. U shaped valleys with minimal turning. As the slope lessens even more and the river slows it will form meanders. Meanders are the "old age" of streams. The river slowly erodes the landscape with oxbows forming and sometimes cutting themselves off.

https://sswm.info/sites/default/files/reference_attachments/IMMOR 2006 Classification Rivers.pdf

If one has a steep gradient and a high load of sediment one can get braided streams, those can form in rapidly moving water, but they have no true meanders. Often creationists mistake one for the other but one can see the difference. Braided stream:

Meander:

Sometimes a meander is established and either sea level drops or the land is raised. Here is a tributary to the Colorado that flood believers cannot explain:

That could not have formed in a flood and I will be happy to go over with you why that is the case.

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Lee Hays said:

I didn’t know you need an education in sciences to post “your thoughts” here...
Sorry dude - won’t happen again !

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Lee Hays said:

To my understanding (not to be confused with how anyone else should understand);

Belief in God - you need to believe in something you can’t see...

I don’t believe you, and that’s ok - this is (still) a free country. Just wondering - could it be - that one person - who has defined erosion... maybe wrong?
God is not wrong, you don’t have to believe me - or him - it’s ok it’s (still) a free country.

You can show me you have black hair, but if God tells me you don’t - I’m not going to believe you.
But that’s just me - not anyone else

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Subduction Zone said:

If you have no education in the sciences then you really have no business denying science. What you do not seem to understand is that by you claiming that there was a Flood you are also claiming that your God is a liar.

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Subduction Zone said:

You don't have to believe me. You only need to understand the evidence. Unlike the creationists that you linked I do not need to lie to support my claims. You used a dishonest source. That does irritate me a bit.

You should also not make the mistake of thinking that the Bible is the "word of God". The Bible does not even make that claim.

Tell me, why do you believe that God lies?

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Lee Hays said:

I’ll make any mistakes I want to...
That’s my right!

Again - who are you - to tell me not to make mistakes...


You may be right - but now - you’ve totally driven me back to my own understanding.

Thank you

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Lee Hays said:

Dude
Hold your wad - slow down man!
I have business denying anything I want to - who are you to say I have no business denying something?

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Lee Hays said:

If your trying to help - you’ve failed
Again - thank you, glorifying God is greater than the Grand Canyon.

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Subduction Zone said:

If you want to look foolish and ignorant I you do have that right. If you want to push your false beliefs upon others then you do not have that right. Too many creationists want their lies taught in public schools.

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Subduction Zone said:

How have I failed? Does it irritate you that you are claiming that your God is a liar? You may not realize it but that is exactly what you are doing. The evidence clearly tells us that there was no flood. By claiming that since it is in the Bible and your make believe friend wrote it you are logically also claiming that your God is a liar. This is why most Christians do not believe the Flood myth. That is a problem that is concentrated more in the U.S. than any other western country that I know of.

Most Christians treat the story as a morality tale and nothing more.

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Lee Hays said:

Man you got some issues huh?
We do have the right to push false beliefs...
You should check your name tag - it doesn’t say manager...

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Lee Hays said:

Not irritated at all
I’m enjoying this as much as you think it’s irritating me ....
Here

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Subduction Zone said:

How have I failed? Does it irritate you that you are claiming that your God is a liar? You may not realize it but that is exactly what you are doing. The evidence clearly tells us that there was no flood. By claiming that since it is in the Bible and your make believe friend wrote it you are logically also claiming that your God is a liar. This is why most Christians do not believe the Flood myth. That is a problem that is concentrated more in the U.S. than any other western country that I know of.

Most Christians treat the story as a morality tale and nothing more.

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Subduction Zone said:

So you are okay with a lying God?

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Lee Hays said:

Your logic totally escapes me..
your trying to tell me something else created the Grand Canyon..

You heard that from somebody - or read it ...
Using your logic - I shouldn’t believe you (my make believe friend)

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Subduction Zone said:

And that is the thing. If you want to claim that the beliefs of others are false then you do have to be able to prove that. A book of myths written by early iron age peoples is not evidence.

I can support my claims. You used a source that I can show requires their workers to swear not to use the scientific method. That makes them worthless in a scientific debate.

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Lee Hays said:

Your confused by what I believe
God is not capable of lying...

That would make your comment - untrue
As with all your comments.... maybe

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Lee Hays said:

God is not capable of lying...

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Subduction Zone said:

No, I am not confused at all. You are projecting. If God is not capable of lying then there was no flood.

All of the evidence out there tells us that there was no flood. For there to be a flood God would have had to have planted false evidence in an attempt to mislead man. That would make God a liar. By claiming that there was a flood you are also calling your God a liar.

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