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Would sharks and T Rex buried together lean toward the flood?

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columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Hockeycowboy said:
(Why does every skeptic ignore the modern "30-5-3 ratio" of the Ark's proportions?
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What's to ignore?
It isn't magical. It isn't even particularly seaworthy. It's just not important.

More relevant would be the number of species, around the globe, that clearly have been evolving for far longer than human history.
Why do creationists ignore that?
Tom
 
sealchan

sealchan

Well-Known Member
Audie said:
You do know that fresh water organisms
need fresh water, marine ones need fresh water, and
intertidal organisms need to have the tide?
And that none of them would get what they need
in this "flood"?
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I suppose the sharks might get swept up in the raging currents of fresh water then die and get deposited anywhere...still the OP is a total wash IMO.
 
Audie

Audie

Veteran Member
sealchan said:
I suppose the sharks might get swept up in the raging currents of fresh water then die and get deposited anywhere...still the OP is a total wash IMO.
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If god magiced a flood, then anything could happen.
Including the "where did the water go" theory that it
was wafted to Neptune, where it shines to this day as
a warning beacon against incoming rogue angels.
 
Hockeycowboy

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
columbus said:
What's to ignore?
It isn't magical. It isn't even particularly seaworthy. It's just not important.

More relevant would be the number of species, around the globe, that clearly have been evolving for far longer than human history.
Why do creationists ignore that?
Tom
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No, it isn't "magical". They are ideal ratios, for building a modern barge.

Yes, it's very seaworthy!

Re: number of species (glad you brought that up)....the sheer variety of body structures, discounts common descent.

You think a unicellular organism has evolved into the diversity we have today? That's gullibility!
 
Audie

Audie

Veteran Member
Hockeycowboy said:
No, it isn't "magical". They are ideal ratios, for building a modern barge.

Yes, it's very seaworthy!

Re: number of species (glad you brought that up)....the sheer variety of body structures, discounts common descent.

You think a unicellular organism has evolved into the diversity we have today? That's gullibility!
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A floody talking about who is gullible! Mirror mirror!!
 
Hockeycowboy

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
tas8831 said:
So... no real answer then.

I've been waiting for an honest reply from you re: Haeckel in textbooks for some time. I don't think I can get such a thing from a creationist...
It is so cool how so many creationists, upon realizing that an opponent has done what they didn't bother to do (look up their claims), they stop replying to them.

Almost as if they've realized that their creationist heroes are dishonest or something, but can't bring themselves to admit it.
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Your own "heroes" have called Haeckel's embryo drawings, a 'fraud'! I pointed that out to you, lol.

How fudged embryo illustrations led to drawn-out lies
 
Audie

Audie

Veteran Member
Hockeycowboy said:
Aww...ya gotta resort to calling me names. What are you, in 3rd grade?
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We notice you is disinclined to respond to anything
substantive.

Did any of you floodies ever figure out why none
of the sediments from the "flood" ended
up in deep ocean basins? Or is that all taken
care of in "Hydroplate"?

So you resort to complaining about a trifle to
avoid a challenge.
A lil tinge of the hypocrite there, complaining of
"name calling" then you do the "third grade" insult.

But never mind...what name?
You mean "floody"? It is a term of endearment,
and I thought you were quite proud to be a floody!
Floodie is better?

But speaking of third grade, anyone even that well
educated who still thinks there was a world wide
flood really ought to try growing up some day.

We know of course why you always dance around
the edges of such discussions as this, with silly
quips and divers divertissements.

You nor any creo has datum point one of actual
factual material to offer in support of your crackpot
ideas.
 
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C

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Hockeycowboy said:
No, it isn't "magical". They are ideal ratios, for building a modern barge.

Yes, it's very seaworthy!
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No it isn't. Not built of wood, loaded with every surviving "kind" of terrestrial creature. Not even close.

Hockeycowboy said:
Re: number of species (glad you brought that up)....the sheer variety of body structures, discounts common descent.
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No, the sheer variety of body structures demonstrates that there was no genetic bottleneck within recorded history.

Hockeycowboy said:
You think a unicellular organism has evolved into the diversity we have today? That's gullibility!
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In a billion years, sure. In the last few thousand years, no!
You're the one claiming that all the multitudes of modern species evolved from the inhabitants of the Ark. But you can't even explain the proliferation of humans without retelling the story of Noah, with a bunch of magical and non-Scriptural additions.
Why do you think that the huge preponderance of evidence overturns your beliefs in Scriptures?
Tom
 
Hockeycowboy

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
Audie said:
You nor any creo has datum point one of any actual factual material to offer in support of your crackpot
ideas.
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Only pages and pages of "factual material", evidence either unexplained or ignored by geologists (which is quite a bit.) lol
 
Lee Hays

Lee Hays

Member
whirlingmerc said:
Hell Creek rock formation in Montana has both shark and T Rex fossils.
Seems to lean toward rather than against the Noah epic.

Data reported in the Journal of Paleontology pp1-19, 21 Jan 2019

What say you?
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I’m sure there is a human somewhere buried next to a T-Rex....
I think all the prof you need of the flood - is the Grand Canyon -
that was created by water - no doubt
and a ton of water, all at one time- no doubt.
And now it’s back to normal..... No Doubt!
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Hockeycowboy said:
Your own "heroes" have called Haeckel's embryo drawings, a 'fraud'! I pointed that out to you, lol.

How fudged embryo illustrations led to drawn-out lies
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Why do you keep referring to Haeckel's embryos? Yes, by today's standards they fail. They are part of the history of the development of the theory. He was wrong in many ways. But you really should have read the article that you linked It tells you why those pictures are still often included in the history of evolution:

"Ironically, although Haeckel’s drawings are used only as relics now, modern molecular genetic studies show that his fundamental point – that there are important similarities between different vertebrate embryos – seems less mistaken, even though his diagrams are profoundly wrong."

So even though he used poor technique he was still correct about some of his claims. Scientists do not deny how he was wrong, but likewise they are not so dishonest to ignore when he was right.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Hockeycowboy said:
Only pages and pages of "factual material", evidence either unexplained or ignored by geologists (which is quite a bit.) lol
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What "evidence"? You do not seem to understand the term. There is no scientific evidence for your beliefs and you have not been able to demonstrate any scientific evidence contrary to the theory of evolution. It appears that you do not understand the concept.
 
C

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Hockeycowboy said:
Sorry...diversification of organisms only began about 535 mya. In the Cambrian explosion.
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You, ahhh,
really don't know how science works. Or what the results are.

Who told you that species diversification started 535 million years ago?
Why do you believe them?
Tom
 
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