And when did the "sign of the son of man will appear in the sky" (Matthew 24:30-31), and "gather together his elect from the four winds", and pass judgment on the wayward servants, and reward the faithful servants. Who "eats and drinks with drunkards" (Matthew 24:49), and says "my master is not coming for a long time", and what and when is their reward? What is your reward? Have you claimed it, or are you waiting to find out if you are on the left or the right? And what "kingdom" have you inherited, which was "prepared from the foundation of the world" (Matthew 25:34)? What sets you apart?
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The Second Coming
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And when did the "sign of the son of man will appear in the sky" (Matthew 24:30-31), and "gather together his elect from the four winds", and pass judgment on the wayward servants, and reward the faithful servants. Who "eats and drinks with drunkards" (Matthew 24:49), and says "my master is not coming for a long time", and what and when is their reward? What is your reward? Have you claimed it, or are you waiting to find out if you are on the left or the right? And what "kingdom" have you inherited, which was "prepared from the foundation of the world" (Matthew 25:34)? What sets you apart?
sooda
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Jesus said he kingdom was not of this earth, didn't he?
sooda
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The Temple was destroyed in August of 70 AD during the grape harvest.
sooda
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Belief in the Second Coming was popularised in the US in the late nineteenth century by the evangelist Dwight L. Moody and the premillennial interpretation became one of the core components of Christian fundamentalism in the 1920s.
sooda
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Matthew 16:28 Explanation -The First Century Second Coming
Matthew 16:28 Explanation -The First Century Second Coming
The “second coming” appears to be no exception. The second coming or parousia as it had been fulfilled through the various miraculous appearances of Christ in A.D 66, A.D. 70 and A.D. 79 is a first century climactic repetition of the various ways in which God manifested Himself throughout Old Testament history.
Matthew 16:28 Explanation -The First Century Second Coming
The “second coming” appears to be no exception. The second coming or parousia as it had been fulfilled through the various miraculous appearances of Christ in A.D 66, A.D. 70 and A.D. 79 is a first century climactic repetition of the various ways in which God manifested Himself throughout Old Testament history.
sooda
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LOL.. It heresy.. Based on Scofield and only about 150 years old.
Ben Dhyan
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You can't be serious posting stuff like that...who is Daniel Morais? Is this where you are coming from?
Ben Dhyan
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I have no idea what you are talking about, what heresy?
sooda
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You can't be serious posting stuff like that...who is Daniel Morais? Is this where you are coming from?
Jesus wasn't lying...….
Jesus Came in Their Generation - The Last Days Generation
As we all know, Jesus promised his apostles that they would be the ones to witness the endtimes signs as well as His return in their generation (Matthew 24:33-34; Matt 23:36).
Jesus promised to return in the lifetimes of his apostles (Matthew 10:22-23; John 21:21-22; Matthew 16:27-28), for they were the Last Days generation (Heb 1:1-2; James 5:3; 1 Cor 10:11; 1 Peter 1:20; Acts 2:15-17; Heb 9:26).
The Last Days signify the last days of the Old Testamental Age.
sooda
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I'm not the least bit surprised you don't know.
sooda
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Forget "cult". Focus on what Jesus said.
sooda
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Preterism
Preterism is a view in Christian eschatology which holds that some or all of the biblical prophecies concerning the Last Days refer to events which took place in the first century after Christ's birth, especially associated with the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD.
The term preterism comes from the Latin praeter, meaning past, since this view deems certain biblical prophecies as past, or already fulfilled.
Preterism is most dramatically contrasted with Futurism, the view that most prophecies regarding the End times, and passages referring to Last Days, Great Tribulation, and Judgment are still future and will immediately precede the return of Christ.
Proponents of preterist views generally fall in one of two categories: Partial Preterism or Full Preterism.
Partial Preterists
Partial Preterism, the older of the two views, holds that prophecies such as the destruction of Jerusalem, the Antichrist, the Great Tribulation, and the advent of the Day of the Lord as a "judgment-coming" of Christ were fulfilled circa 70 AD when the Roman general (and future Emperor) Titus sacked Jerusalem and destroyed the Jewish Temple, putting a permanent stop to the daily animal sacrifices.
It identifies "Babylon the great" (Revelation 17-18) with the ancient pagan City of Rome or Jerusalem.
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Preterism is a view in Christian eschatology which holds that some or all of the biblical prophecies concerning the Last Days refer to events which took place in the first century after Christ's birth, especially associated with the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD.
The term preterism comes from the Latin praeter, meaning past, since this view deems certain biblical prophecies as past, or already fulfilled.
Preterism is most dramatically contrasted with Futurism, the view that most prophecies regarding the End times, and passages referring to Last Days, Great Tribulation, and Judgment are still future and will immediately precede the return of Christ.
Proponents of preterist views generally fall in one of two categories: Partial Preterism or Full Preterism.
Partial Preterists
Partial Preterism, the older of the two views, holds that prophecies such as the destruction of Jerusalem, the Antichrist, the Great Tribulation, and the advent of the Day of the Lord as a "judgment-coming" of Christ were fulfilled circa 70 AD when the Roman general (and future Emperor) Titus sacked Jerusalem and destroyed the Jewish Temple, putting a permanent stop to the daily animal sacrifices.
It identifies "Babylon the great" (Revelation 17-18) with the ancient pagan City of Rome or Jerusalem.
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https://www.theopedia.com/preterism
sooda
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What did he "do"? Remember he told his followers to flee to the mountains to avoid the tribulation. They did.. They went to Pella.
Most Partial Preterists also believe the term Last Days refers not to the last days of planet Earth or the last days of humankind, but rather to the last days of the Mosaic covenant which God had exclusively with national Israel until the year AD 70.
As God came in judgment upon various nations in the Old Testament, Christ also came in judgment against those in Israel who rejected him.
These last days, however, are to be distinguished from the "last day," which is considered still future and entails the Second Coming of Jesus, the Resurrection of the righteous and unrighteous dead physically from the grave in like-manner to Jesus' physical resurrection, the Final judgment, and the creation of a literal (rather than covenantal) New Heavens and a New Earth, free from the curse of sin and death which was brought about by the Fall
of Adam and Eve.
Thus partial preterists are in agreement and conformity with the historic ecumenical creeds of the Church and articulate the doctrine of the resurrection held by the Early church fathers. Partial preterists hold that the New Testament predicts and depicts many "comings" of Christ.
They contend that the phrase Second Coming means second of a like kind in a series, for the Scriptures record other "comings" even before the judgment-coming in 70 AD.
This would eliminate the 70 AD event as the "second" of any series, let alone the second of a series in which the earthly, physical ministry of Christ is the first. Partial Preterists believe that the new creation comes in redemptive progression as Christ reigns from His heavenly throne, subjugating His enemies, and will eventually culminate in the destruction of physical death, the "last enemy" (1 Cor 15:20-24). If there are any enemies remaining, the resurrection event cannot have occurred.
sooda
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I agree.. He did not return physically.
In Isaiah 19, as a striking example, the prophet refers to the impending judgement on Egypt, and we are told "See, the LORD rides on a swift cloud, and is coming to Egypt."
The language of God coming to us, and even the language of riding the clouds, does not necessarily refer to the second coming of Christ that Christianity generally affirms.