Muffled
Jesus in me
I could have a blue fairy vision in Heaven. If God wanted a corporeal one, He could make one but I do not know of one.
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Who will get to heaven?
- Thread starter Jeremiah Ames
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I could have a blue fairy vision in Heaven. If God wanted a corporeal one, He could make one but I do not know of one.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe you do not know the difference between good and evil.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe if the requirement was to be good then no-one would go to Heaven. However I believe the requirement is that a person need to be free from evil, which is what Heaven provides.
lostwanderingsoul
Well-Known Member
So, is there a verse in the Bible that says that?
But, I did Not know Pres. Wilson, but John knew Christ Jesus.
I would be writing from what people previously wrote.
John wrote from first-hand accounts with Jesus, eye-witness accounts.
Plus, the resurrected Jesus gave John the Revelation account - Revelation 1:1
Also, what Pres. Wilson wrote was Not inspired by God as what John wrote was God inspired - 2 Timothy 3:16-17.
Jesus' ransom I find covers both the righteous and unrighteous - Acts of the Apostles 24:15
Only the wicked are 'destroyed forever' as per Psalms 92:7.
Those who died before Jesus died (John 3:13) are Not offered heaven, but a future earthly physical resurrection.
What they do ' after ' they are resurrected will determine whether they gain everlasting life on Earth.
Only people like those of Luke 22:28-30 are offered Heaven - Revelation 20:6; Revelation 2:10.
The majority of people are offered everlasting life on earth as originally offered to Adam before his downfall.
Plus, those of us still alive on Earth at the soon coming ' time of separation ' on Earth (Matthew 25:31-33,37 ) can remain alive on Earth, and continue to live on Earth, right into the start of calendar Day One of Jesus' coming 1,000-year governmental rule over Earth when it begins.
Notice what living mankind can experience on Earth as found at Revelation 22:2_________________
Just as Isaiah 35th chapter wrote describing what mankind will see: the return of health on Earth.
I find what is a requirement for both: people called to Heaven, or called to live forever on Earth has to do with what Jesus said at Matthew 7:21 but to do God's will, God's requirements.
Requirements that require one to listen to Jesus' instructions.
Jesus' instructions such as found at Matthew 24:13-14; 28:18-20; Acts of the Apostles 1:8; John 13:34-35
Does unconditional love mean No prisons __________
Seems to me putting a person behind bars is showing a condition.
God is Not partial in that anyone can choose to live by the Golden Rule.
We are all free to act responsibly toward God.
Even a loving child can act responsibly toward his earthly father.
God does Not love evil - Proverbs 6:16-19. Nor does He love violence - Psalms 11:5.
Thus, if a person turns to such evil then that evil person would or could bring harm to the righteous.
Earth was created for humble meek people, and Not wicked haughty people. - Psalms 37:9-11.
We are all given the opportunity to ' repent ' if we do Not wish to ' perish ' ( be destroyed )- 2 Peter 3:9.
God loves ALL - 1 John 1:7 - that is why God sent heavenly per-human Jesus to Earth for ALL or everyone.
However, Not everyone wants to live by the Golden Rule or Jesus' New commandment of John 13:34-35.
This is why Matthew 20:28 says that Jesus' ransom covers MANY and does Not say everyone.
How loving would it be for anyone to let a vicious murderer continue to murder people __________
Hasn't mankind been given ' enough time ' ( over 6,000 years of human history ) to learn ___________
Mankind's history has proven that man can Not successfully direct his step, so that is why God will have Jesus step in to establish international Peace on Earth among persons of goodwill. - Psalms 72:8; Psalms 72:12-14.
To me, the now international proclaiming about Gods' kingdom of Daniel 2:44 is pointing them in the right direction.
This is why the theme of Jesus' teaching is God's kingdom - Luke 4:43; Matthew 24:14; Acts 1:8.
So, if the ' light bulb' (Proverbs 4:18) does Not go off now, it will ' go off ' at the coming ' time of separation' to take place on Earth at the soon coming time of Matthew 25:31-33,3740 when the figurative humble 'sheep'-like people will be separated from the haughty 'goat'-like people.
Road Warrior
Seeking the middle path..
The author of John is disputed and not a certainty.
Gospel According to John | Description, Authorship, & Facts
Gospel According to John, fourth of the four New Testament narratives recounting the life and death of Jesus Christ. John’s is the only one of the four not considered among the Synoptic Gospels (i.e., those presenting a common view). Although the Gospel is ostensibly written by St. John the Apostle, “the beloved disciple” of Jesus, there has been considerable discussion of the actual identity of the author. The language of the Gospel and its well-developed theology suggest that the author may have lived later than John and based his writing on John’s teachings and testimonies. Moreover, the facts that several episodes in the life of Jesus are recounted out of sequence with the Synoptics and that the final chapter appears to be a later addition suggest that the text may be a composite.
https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org...-the-gospel-of-john-and-how-historical-is-it/
We may never know for certain who wrote the Gospel of John, any more than we can know who wrote the books of Matthew, Mark and Luke.
Jeremiah Ames
Well-Known Member
That’s what I think.
John 14:19-20
Before long, the world will not see me anymore, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live. On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you.
Well you obviously don't if you think there is anything good about the Biblical god, if the deeds attributed to it have any credibility.
Samana Johann
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in between, as good nourishment and to let known that heaven is not something easy gained, what ever religion, teachings holding as possible good if one would put them into action
Blinded this world
— how few here see clearly!
Just as birds who've escaped
from a net are
few, few
are the people who make it to heaven.
— how few here see clearly!
Just as birds who've escaped
from a net are
few, few
are the people who make it to heaven.
Jeremiah Ames
Well-Known Member
There is no evil in God’s attributes.
I can’t imagine direct deeds of God, but if there were, no evil could be in them either.
All evil originates in people. All evil exists solely because of people. No evil originates in animals, plants, or minerals. Only people.
Have you ever read the Bible, obviously not, if you can't see what an evil entity the god featured therein is, if it exists, and what is stated about it is correct.
Jeremiah Ames
Well-Known Member
Have you ever read the Bible, obviously not, if you can't see what an evil entity the god featured therein is, if it exists, and what is stated about it is correct.
Thanks for your thoughtful response.
I now worry though, that you may be watching me through a camera on my phone or something. Since you said it is obvious to you that I have not read the bible, you must be snooping on me.
But wait, I have read the Bible. More than once even, and some verses many many times. Something is wrong here.
Anyway, I’m sticking with my original comment. Your unsupported comment will not change that.
However, instead of us throwing generalities around, why don’t you give me a specific story or verses that you find supports your conclusion? And tell me why you think it supports the case for an evil god?
Thanks much.
Only a psycho would flood a whole planet, if that silly story was credible, which of course it isn't!
Bird123
Well-Known Member
Prisons should only exist to protect people not punish them. How long have people been put in prison? If mankind would work at solving the underlying problems that cause crime, how many would be in prison today after all that time of study? The problem will never go away until it is solved. That is why the problem exists in the first place.
Remember, Unconditional Love always does what is best for the other. Is it really best to lock someone away and throw the key away, not caring if they get better so long as they aren't in your life? Once again, mankind, society, and religion are teaching people to value and now you justifying some pretty petty things. Can you not see a HIGHER LEVEL to be?
This world is like it is for many reasons. If you think God or Jesus is going to alter it, you do not really understand the genius behind this world and why it is working just fine.
Do you really want Peace?? It's so simple. Learn your lessons.
Bird123
Well-Known Member
Is this a excuse to Hate? Does it somehow make you feel more important or better when you condemn others?
God gave everyone a different view to guaranty mankind a larger view than any one person could have. Instead of condemning your so called goat-like people perhaps there is something you can Learn from them.
Your holy book written by man reflects man very well. God is beyond Hating, Condemning, and Classing His children. God is also not afraid of Diversity. God loves it.
Perhaps, it's time for you to examine your actions and choices. Is this who you really want to be? Is this how you want others to treat you?
Make wise choices for regardless of your Beliefs, your choices will return to teach you what your choices really mean. Don't you Understand? For God, it has never ever been about Punishment. That is mankind's desire to rule, control, hate and punish.
Road Warrior
Seeking the middle path..
Love your post, but I don't see @URAVIP2ME isn't showing hate, just a point of view which you claimed with this statement: "God gave everyone a different view to guaranty mankind a larger view than any one person could have."