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Fastfood healthy

Riders

Well-Known Member
Its without a doubt best to make ones own food, because then you know what the hell is in it :D

Also a good trick, is to eat raw celery, not the leafs, so just cut them into sticks and wash them and then eat them, they don't taste all that good, but when you get used to them its no problem. The good thing about it, is that eating celery makes your body spend more calories processing them than are in them. So its a natural "loosing" weight vegetable :D

You know, actually I don't agree because that can be a cop out too. I've seen a bunch of folks from My 600 Pound Life Including Penny who could not lose their weight for their obesity surgery because when they went on their diet all they did was quit eating out and started making their own food, Penny deep fried her own wantons and they deep fry stuff eat high fats and carbs and just make it home made. Its not any better then the unhealthy fastfoods.

The real truth is you have to count your calories and or carbs and eat small portions and or fat though some low carb folks can eat high fat meats no matter regardless of weather you eat at home or at restaurants , just making your own food won't do if you not counting calories eating small portions and getting rid of fats and carbs.
 

dybmh

דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
fast food or restaurant recommendations for health
"Just Say No to Sauces"... especially mayo and salad dressing. But almost all the sauces are ridden with chemicals that will cause all sorts of problems. Not to mention the added calories.

"Just Say No to Soda" even diet. The chemicals... are really bad.

"Just Say No to Cheese" again... all cheese at fast food restaurants is low quality with a lot of chemicals.

All of these chemicals put stress on the body. Stress increases cortisol; cortisol puts the metabolism in fat-storing-mode. When calories are stored as fat, they are not available in the blood as simple sugars, and then... people get hungry more regularly, and eat more calories.

It's not just a matter of calorie counting... skipping sauces, soda, and cheese reduces the stress on the body and that helps maintain a healthy metabolism.
 

Nimos

Well-Known Member
You know, actually I don't agree because that can be a cop out too. I've seen a bunch of folks from My 600 Pound Life Including Penny who could not lose their weight for their obesity surgery because when they went on their diet all they did was quit eating out and started making their own food, Penny deep fried her own wantons and they deep fry stuff eat high fats and carbs and just make it home made. Its not any better then the unhealthy fastfoods.

The real truth is you have to count your calories and or carbs and eat small portions and or fat though some low carb folks can eat high fat meats no matter regardless of weather you eat at home or at restaurants , just making your own food won't do if you not counting calories eating small portions and getting rid of fats and carbs.
I think one have to be realistic here, if people decide to make their own food, because they want to be more healthy and avoid fastfood and then drown everything in a deep fryer and starts to make homemade chocolate and cakes filled with sugar and butter, obviously they would be better off eating at Mc Donalds then. That is why I wrote in the first post, that its the motivation that is the hard part. If people regardless of what they eat, constantly jump in the sugar jar then there is nothing anyone can do, and I honestly wouldn't have any advice for them. I my self is not slim as an eel, im pretty normal, maybe a little overweight, but I don't blame it on anything other than my self, I know I should probably eat slightly fewer peanuts (Dammit I love them :D), so once in a while even though I really like them, I think to my self, well maybe Ill get a package tomorrow or something. So its about self discipline.

You can make lots of healthy food that tastes great and that doesn't need a deep fryer :D .
 

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
I do not consider the high glycemic carb breads and corn products healthy. Dropping the consumption of high salt food, white bread, potatoes, and sugar will go a long to improve health. Another problem is high salt content of fast food restaurants. Rotisorie chicken and other non-fried chicken and fish is an improvement over deep fried and breaded, but still high salt.

I believe rural areas do have health alternatives in regular grocery stores. The appeal of fast food is more lazy convenience than economics. Whole wheat and coarse grain bread products are widely available.

I agree for most people it's convenience. I live in a rural area in Australia, our closest supermarket is a 40 minute drive and the fresh fruit and veg there is usually rubbish, they have no competition so we get what won't sell in places where they do have competition. Even with that problem we cook most of our meals, only eat out once a month or less. It takes a bit of work but it is possible, we grow a few vegetables and swap with the neighbours, some of the farms around the area have roadside stalls and once a month there's a farmers market. Some frozen and canned veg are ok when the fresh option is unavailable. Decent fruit is the hardest to come by but I would rather do without it than waste money on the inedible stuff from the supermarket that has been in cold storage for ages. I'm also lucky enough to have a butcher shop and a fisherman's co-op close by.

Of course I can't speak for America, it may be more difficult or even impossible in some places.
 

SalixIncendium

अग्निविलोवनन्दः
Staff member
Premium Member
Some of you are confusing fast food (QSR) with fast casual. “Healthy options” in fast food is a myth. While they may have “healthier options,” healthy options don’t exist in fast food.

Trust me. I work in the industry. My fast food is free and I rarely eat it.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
I did eat high fat sausage 2 kinds this week 2 kinds of cheese, bacon, and ground beef.I am going to change my diet back though .I'm going to get low fat sirloin steak which is expensive but worth it. eggs again no bacon just cheese refried beans and I have taco shells. If I eat 2 or 3 healthy breads a day, maybe 2 tacos one serving of refried's and then eat low fat instead of high fat meats and lowfat everything else except cheese I lose better then with high fats, I can lose a lot on low fat meal plans.Its similar to body for life except 3 meals instead of five, 3 small meals and maybe 1 or 2 snacks, sometimes i get sugar free jello pudding with only 11 carbs in it.I eat one a day or one evry other day.
I can't help but notice something.
Nowhere in this did you even mention fresh fruits or green vegetables.
Cutting back on calories is definitely a good thing. But replacing the empty calories with solid nutrition, like oranges and broccoli and brown rice and bananas and spinach and tomatoes.... Etc. has huge health advantages.
Tom
 

The Reverend Bob

Fart Machine and Beastmaster
I can't help but notice something.
Nowhere in this did you even mention fresh fruits or green vegetables.
Cutting back on calories is definitely a good thing. But replacing the empty calories with solid nutrition, like oranges and broccoli and brown rice and bananas and spinach and tomatoes.... Etc. has huge health advantages.
Tom
Not always available if you live in a food desert because you don't have anywhere to buy fresh fruits or vegetables, often the only choice you have is convenience stores or fast food joints and if you are going to buy groceries at the local 7/11 there ain't much choice and you are going to pay through the teeth just to get something relatively close to healthy like a can of soup

Food Desert | Gateway to Health Communication | CDC
 

Riders

Well-Known Member
Some of you are confusing fast food (QSR) with fast casual. “Healthy options” in fast food is a myth. While they may have “healthier options,” healthy options don’t exist in fast food.

Trust me. I work in the industry. My fast food is free and I rarely eat it.


Define healthy food. If its a healthy or low carb low calorie low fat its healthy your wrong.Once folks get focused on the idea of not eating at restaurants they statrt making unhealthy foods at home thinking its safer because its not restaurant. Bottom, line the one and only thing I center on for my food plan is low carb healthy carb low fat and low calories its healthy makes no difference who made it.
 

Riders

Well-Known Member
Not always available if you live in a food desert because you don't have anywhere to buy fresh fruits or vegetables, often the only choice you have is convenience stores or fast food joints and if you are going to buy groceries at the local 7/11 there ain't much choice and you are going to pay through the teeth just to get something relatively close to healthy like a can of soup

Food Desert | Gateway to Health Communication | CDC
Ug my 711 and most convenience stores have lowfat lunch meat bread cheese salad and milk and maybe canned chili and canned chicken and tuna. Your wrong and fastfood places have healthy .
 

The Reverend Bob

Fart Machine and Beastmaster
Ug my 711 and most convenience stores have lowfat lunch meat bread cheese salad and milk and maybe canned chili and canned chicken and tuna. Your wrong and fastfood places have healthy .
But the price? Trying to eat healthy at a 7/11 or fast food restaurant is going to cost more than buy groceries at a supermarket and fixing a healthy meal at home.
 

Riders

Well-Known Member
I can't help but notice something.
Nowhere in this did you even mention fresh fruits or green vegetables.
Cutting back on calories is definitely a good thing. But replacing the empty calories with solid nutrition, like oranges and broccoli and brown rice and bananas and spinach and tomatoes.... Etc. has huge health advantages.
Tom

This week I have an orange to eat every other day, half a banana, and green peppers,Its true I don't as much about it because I don't like a lot of veggies. I will eat stir fry veggies, tomaotoes, peppers, green onion onion celery and mushrooms but thats it. I ate green peppers cut up in my eggs this week. I hate most vegitables though, spinach green beans english peas corn squash YUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Riders

Well-Known Member
But the price? Trying to eat healthy at a 7/11 or fast food restaurant is going to cost more than buy groceries at a supermarket and fixing a healthy meal at home.

This is true but if you use it as an excuse to over eat at fastfood places, I use to eat 20 bucks worth of fastfood at once, so surely if you can not afford a convenience store you can not afford to over eat at fast food either.

So that leaves you with no options.
 

Riders

Well-Known Member
But the price? Trying to eat healthy at a 7/11 or fast food restaurant is going to cost more than buy groceries at a supermarket and fixing a healthy meal at home.

So go to the supermarket if there are none, go to fast food but get the special and eat half of one meal or a kids meal or a healthy meal and buy enough for 2 small meals a day, healthy, if you have 2 fatening meals a day from mcdonald's you'll gain weight, or have one healthy meal from Mcdonalds. then that will be cheap. But if you use it as an excuse to over eat at fast food you'd be better off going to the convenience store.
 

SalixIncendium

अग्निविलोवनन्दः
Staff member
Premium Member
Define healthy food. If its a healthy or low carb low calorie low fat its healthy your wrong.Once folks get focused on the idea of not eating at restaurants they statrt making unhealthy foods at home thinking its safer because its not restaurant. Bottom, line the one and only thing I center on for my food plan is low carb healthy carb low fat and low calories its healthy makes no difference who made it.

No, Riders. I won’t be spoon feeding common sense for you or anyone else participating ITT. Salt is low carb, low calorie, and low fat. How healthy is a diet fortified with salt?

While I appreciate your intent, finding “healthy” in fast food ain’t gonna happen. Our only job is to sell you what tantalizes your taste buds. We’ll tell you it’s healthy because that what you want to hear. Is it, really? Caveat emptor.

Best to shop and cook for oneself.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
I agree for most people it's convenience. I live in a rural area in Australia, our closest supermarket is a 40 minute drive and the fresh fruit and veg there is usually rubbish, they have no competition so we get what won't sell in places where they do have competition. Even with that problem we cook most of our meals, only eat out once a month or less. It takes a bit of work but it is possible, we grow a few vegetables and swap with the neighbours, some of the farms around the area have roadside stalls and once a month there's a farmers market. Some frozen and canned veg are ok when the fresh option is unavailable. Decent fruit is the hardest to come by but I would rather do without it than waste money on the inedible stuff from the supermarket that has been in cold storage for ages. I'm also lucky enough to have a butcher shop and a fisherman's co-op close by.

Of course I can't speak for America, it may be more difficult or even impossible in some places.

You presenting an extreme case. I know someone from very rural Australia, and what they do is ship in bulk for several families. Most USA does not have this problem.

Actually I can get healthy food from a variety of sources, but raise food myself and participate in coop gardening.

The problem of white flour, sugar and salt, I believe these problems can be resolved everywhere. The side note is high glycemic carbs and sugar are addictive.
 
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Riders

Well-Known Member
No, Riders. I won’t be spoon feeding common sense for you or anyone else participating ITT. Salt is low carb, low calorie, and low fat. How healthy is a diet fortified with salt?

While I appreciate your intent, finding “healthy” in fast food ain’t gonna happen. Our only job is to sell you what tantalizes your taste buds. We’ll tell you it’s healthy because that what you want to hear. Is it, really? Caveat emptor.

Best to shop and cook for oneself.
Well my scales today say I'm down to 272 which is exactly 70 pounds down from my highest 342. When I get down to 200 you can continue saying that but the real truth is Im happy with my weigh loss and my body right now, so I don't want any advice from you. I've had this weight off the past year and a half, do you know what the percentages of me losing weight is or anyone who is obese? Less then 5 percent and very few make it to where I'm at now. SO I think the scales and the fact speak for themselves.

I'm happy with my weight are you happy with yours?
 
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