what makes you think they didn't?
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Once Again The United States Supreme Court Blows It
- Thread starter Skwim
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Yeup to stick to the atheist communist. Seems like it still works on the ones inside the U.S. as well.
The Reverend Bob
Fart Machine and Beastmaster
Because it wouldn't be an accurate sample if they did
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Because polls need to be honest to be accepted. You are proposing a conspiracy. That puts a huge burden of proof upon you.
You mean like the polls did during the election?
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Polls always have a margin of error. Why didn't you admit that you did not understand polling?
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
The only people it "sticks it to" are those who penned the Constitution and those who respect it enough to want it upheld.
There is a difference between "margin" and "completely wrong". Why do you not want to admit that it was WAAAY off? Denial?
ecco
Veteran Member
Which god? Shiva, Allah, Atlas, please be specific.
Skwim
Veteran Member
Other than trying to take the discussion of track, just what is it you see on the left side that I should better spend my time on?
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Sometimes Bias enters in. As my statics teacher said, "You can make your poll say anything you want". The poll maker:
You can pray to yours and I'll pray to mine or, if you are your own god, you can believe in yourself..
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Then you do not understand either the U.S. election or polls. They were not "completely wrong". Trump won some very close states that swung the election. They were correct about the over all vote. Also sometimes people lie to pollsters, especially if they are embarrassed by their choice. It looks like the people that lied had a very good reason to be embarrassed.
Road Warrior
Seeking the middle path..
The problem for atheists is that it asserts there is a God.
Curious George
Veteran Member
While you are correct on the tradition, you are incorrect in thinking the question turns on whether an American citizen is being forced or compelled to believe in a particular god. The question is whether a reasonable person would think that the phrase demonstrates the government adopting a religious position.
On one hand you have religious folks using this very issue as evidence that we are a religious country on another hand the rote and traditional usage devalues any meaning. I certainly wouldn't think that a nation had adopted latin as an official language merely because E pluribus unum was written on the money.
Road Warrior
Seeking the middle path..
The atheist communists murdered millions of their own people and tried, in vain, to eradicate religion. They failed despite over 70 years of trying. Why did they fail?
you apparently like to rewrite history:
FLORIDA — 29 Electoral Votes
(numbers equal percentage points)
Exit Polls: Clinton 47.7, Trump 46.4 — Clinton wins by 1.3
Actual: Clinton 47.8, Trump 49.0 — Trump wins by 1.2
Trump gain between exit polls and actual results: 2.5
PENNSYLVANIA — 20 Electoral Votes
Exit Polls: Clinton 50.5, Trump 46.1 — Clinton wins by 4.4
Actual: Clinton 47.6, Trump 48.8 — Trump wins by 1.2
Trump gain: 5.6
WISCONSIN — 10 Electoral Votes
Exit Polls: Clinton 48.2, Trump 44.3 — Clinton wins by 3.9
Actual: Clinton 47.6, Trump 48.8 — Trump wins by 1.2
Trump gain: 5.1
NORTH CAROLINA — 15 Electoral Votes
Exit Polls: Clinton 48.2, Trump 44.3 — Clinton wins by 3.9
Actual: Clinton 47.6, Trump 48.8 — Trump wins by 1.2
Trump gain: 5.1
These are BIG differences.
Collusion to affect votes?
The Reverend Bob
Fart Machine and Beastmaster
Annuit Coeptis = [Deo pater] favors our undertakings, Novus Ordo Seclorum = The Great Order of the Ages is born again.
It is from Virgil. Says a lot about about our state religion. Like I said "Render unto Caesar, that which belongs to Caesar"
Road Warrior
Seeking the middle path..
Which, no doubt, among other past precedence, played into the SCOTUS decision.