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Speaking in Tongues
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XGraceX104
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Anade said:
What you need to remember within these gifts is this. God grants us such gifts and are effective when used within the will of God. It is not the physical person who performs the miracle. It is God Himself working through that person. Raising someone from the dead is indeed a miracle. Let me ask you this.....if it was on the news, would you believe it was a miracle or simply a hoax? My suspicion (correct me if I'm wrong) is that you would be just as suspicious.
When Jesus came to earth to die for us, the will was then activated. Just as we have wills on earth which are then taken action on once we have passed, so the will of God came to pass once Jesus died. All of the promises outlined in the Bible become ours. It says in the Bible that all who belong to Christ are Abraham's seed. It points out multiple times that all things that Abraham had were promised to his descendants. This meaning that all the promises made in the Bible belong to each and every believer who has come since the death of Jesus Christ.
Here's the problem with this debate. There are some people who just aren't going to believe without seeing. God knows this. However, He will not force anyone into anything. He doesn't want to be chosen by default. He wants to be chosen because we believe. There will come a day when every knee will bow and know that Jesus is Lord. That is the day when you will see. That is the day you will believe. This is not what God or myself or any other Christian wants for any person. God loves us so much that He is willing to forgive you for everything wrong you have done in your life. (I thank God everyday for His mercy) He wants you in Heaven. I hope to see you there!:hug:
I'm sorry this isn't exactly on the topic of tongues, but I felt inspired to write that. I hope none of you mind.
verita
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Speaking in tongues in the Bible happens to Peter and his eleven companions in Jerusalem. They were preaching the Word of God in their own Galilean language to the Jews and devoted men who visits Jerusalem. As they preach using their own language, the Jews and visitors who listen to them hear it in their own language and they were amazed.
Act 2:5-11 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans? And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia, Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes, Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.
Nowadays, many peoples pretend to speak in tongue but it can NOT be understood. See what the bible say about them...
1Co 14:9 So likewise ye, except ye utter by the tongue words easy to be understood, how shall it be known what is spoken? for ye shall speak into the air.
God bless you all.
:shout
Act 2:5-11 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans? And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia, Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes, Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.
Nowadays, many peoples pretend to speak in tongue but it can NOT be understood. See what the bible say about them...
1Co 14:9 So likewise ye, except ye utter by the tongue words easy to be understood, how shall it be known what is spoken? for ye shall speak into the air.
God bless you all.
:shout
Sorry I didnt take all the time to read all the pages of this topic, But I just got a personal expierence to share.
Well a number of people in my church speak in tongues, Usually when they are in a deep prayer. The bible says god gives us the gifts of prophecy,prophet,tongues, and being able to interpert tongues. (Correct me if im wrong, I'm a new christian.) So one day in church when everyone was praying a women in my church stood up and began to speak..well yell in tongues and are pastor also stood up and began to interpet what she said. I dont know the exact words that my pastor said but i do remember this part: "Come back more open-minded".. And yeah theres my expierence with speaking in tongues.
From my personal knowledge isnt when someone speaks in tongues meen that god is speaking through them, And its usually in a different language or even just gibberous so Satan cant understand what is said?
Well a number of people in my church speak in tongues, Usually when they are in a deep prayer. The bible says god gives us the gifts of prophecy,prophet,tongues, and being able to interpert tongues. (Correct me if im wrong, I'm a new christian.) So one day in church when everyone was praying a women in my church stood up and began to speak..well yell in tongues and are pastor also stood up and began to interpet what she said. I dont know the exact words that my pastor said but i do remember this part: "Come back more open-minded".. And yeah theres my expierence with speaking in tongues.
From my personal knowledge isnt when someone speaks in tongues meen that god is speaking through them, And its usually in a different language or even just gibberous so Satan cant understand what is said?
verita
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Jesusowns said:Sorry I didnt take all the time to read all the pages of this topic, But I just got a personal expierence to share.
Well a number of people in my church speak in tongues, Usually when they are in a deep prayer. The bible says god gives us the gifts of prophecy,prophet,tongues, and being able to interpert tongues. (Correct me if im wrong, I'm a new christian.) So one day in church when everyone was praying a women in my church stood up and began to speak..well yell in tongues and are pastor also stood up and began to interpet what she said. I dont know the exact words that my pastor said but i do remember this part: "Come back more open-minded".. And yeah theres my expierence with speaking in tongues.
From my personal knowledge isnt when someone speaks in tongues meen that god is speaking through them, And its usually in a different language or even just gibberous so Satan cant understand what is said?
:yes:
I know someone very close to me is doing that thing, but I can not tell her 'coz she'll get mad of me. But that's reality. "for ye shall speak into the air."
:biglaugh:
Djamila
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Good day, I'm sure my question has already been answered somewhere in these 13 pages, but I haven't been able to find it and I would like to know the answer.
Christians that speak in tongues, is this a conscious choice they make as a form of worship, or is it believed this happens to them without their control?
Christians that speak in tongues, is this a conscious choice they make as a form of worship, or is it believed this happens to them without their control?
Djamila
Bosnjakinja
Sorry, mistake post!
What about speaking in tongues today? Ifound this portion of this lesson at http://www.gospelpreceptor.com/WeirML04.htm The title of the lesson was :
"From Heaven or Men"
SPEAKING IN UNKNOWN TONGUES
The word "unknown" (1 Cor. 2, 4, 13, 14, 19) is not in the original Greek language and has been supplied by the King James translators. It was an attempt to simply stress that the apostles spoke in languages they had not previously studied. It was an unknown tongue (language) to the apostles but those to whom they were speaking understood the language. According to the Bible, speaking in tongues was a sign for the unbeliever and not the believer (1 Cor. 14:22). When this writer, however, challenged one who claimed to speaks in tongues to demonstrate his claim, he quickly said he could not do so because I was an unbeliever!
The Scriptures read that the apostles on the day of Pentecost "began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance" (Acts 2:4). The crowd was amazed and marveled that these men were Galileans and yet they were hearing "every man in [his] own tongue, wherein [he was] born" (Acts 2:7-8). The legitimate tongue speaking on Pentecost and during the early age of the New Testament church was not some unintelligible gibberish but rather intelligent communication in a language known to the listener. In the early days of the church one was not to speak in a tongue unless there was one available who could interpret (1 Cor. 14:27-28). Folks today who claim to "speak in tongues" do not have a clue as to what they are saying and neither do the people who are listening to them. Such a situation hardly qualifies as edification and is of no benefit to anyone. - In love Baerly
"From Heaven or Men"
SPEAKING IN UNKNOWN TONGUES
The word "unknown" (1 Cor. 2, 4, 13, 14, 19) is not in the original Greek language and has been supplied by the King James translators. It was an attempt to simply stress that the apostles spoke in languages they had not previously studied. It was an unknown tongue (language) to the apostles but those to whom they were speaking understood the language. According to the Bible, speaking in tongues was a sign for the unbeliever and not the believer (1 Cor. 14:22). When this writer, however, challenged one who claimed to speaks in tongues to demonstrate his claim, he quickly said he could not do so because I was an unbeliever!
The Scriptures read that the apostles on the day of Pentecost "began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance" (Acts 2:4). The crowd was amazed and marveled that these men were Galileans and yet they were hearing "every man in [his] own tongue, wherein [he was] born" (Acts 2:7-8). The legitimate tongue speaking on Pentecost and during the early age of the New Testament church was not some unintelligible gibberish but rather intelligent communication in a language known to the listener. In the early days of the church one was not to speak in a tongue unless there was one available who could interpret (1 Cor. 14:27-28). Folks today who claim to "speak in tongues" do not have a clue as to what they are saying and neither do the people who are listening to them. Such a situation hardly qualifies as edification and is of no benefit to anyone. - In love Baerly
Baerly said:
You quote from 1 Corinthians three times in your post, yet you ignore some of the scripture to make your point. 1 Cor 14:2 "he that speaks in an unknown tounge speaks not unto men but unto God: for no man understands him". If you take out the word unknown, then that makes no sense. If no man can understand, then the only explanation would be a language not known to man. Because, again in the same chapter verse 14 says that "if I pray in an unknown tounge, my spirit prays, and my understanding is unfruitfull." Again, how could your understanding be unfruitfull if it is just another language that those around you don't understand? Then Paul goes on to say that he will "pray with the spirit and with understanding" again making it perfectly clear that he's talking about a language that even he doesn't understand. The only explanation that ties all of it together is that there is a gift of tounges in which a person prays (in the spirit) without his or her understanding. And also a gift of tounges for prophesy where interpretation is required. If you would objectively go to a spirit-filled church that allows these gifts to be manifested in church, these verses make perfectly good sense.