BSM1
What? Me worry?
National Park Quietly Removed Warning That Glaciers ‘Will All Be Gone’ By 2020 After Years Of Heavy Snowfall
I'll just leave this here...
I'll just leave this here...
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Uhhh..climate change?
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The Reverend Bob
Fart Machine and Beastmaster
And meanwhile in the Arctic:
Your point is?
Your point is?
Yes, thanks to recent heavy snowfall, these glaciers might hang on for a few more decades. I guess you feel some redemption now? (jeez)
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
The steam has gone out of the alarmist.
Nimos
Well-Known Member
USGS still says on its website glaciers could all disappear sometime between 2030 and 2080, depending on how much warming occurs. As recent years demonstrate, however, glacial melt can be slowed by heavy winter snowfall.
“The overall picture remains the same, however, and that picture is that the glaciers all continue to retreat,” USGS said.
So what are you saying...that if it change doesn't happen right now, change isn't happening? Is everything so simple where you live?
Ah . . . best to leave it there. Layman playing with science do weird stuff.
Source?
The Reverend Bob
Fart Machine and Beastmaster
United States Geological Survey website
Nimos
Well-Known Member
Its from the same article that the OP posted, just have to read further than the headline
It's a quote from the OP's article.
Its from the same article that the OP read, just have to read further than the headline
You just beat me to it by a hair!!
Waiting for an actual published scientific article making specific predictions concerning what is going to happen concerning glaciers, and make it recent.Its from the same article that the OP posted, just have to read further than the headline
From what I have read from competent sources, is yes glaciers are indeed retreating over time, but at a variable rate, and some at times increase due to high snowfall. The science of global warming is far more comprehensive in scope than the pattern of advance and retreat of glaciers.
Nimos
Well-Known Member
Think this could be a good place to start
Glaciers and climate change | National Snow and Ice Data Center
OK reference, but does not reflect the layman third hand articles cited. Please note the qualifiers in the description of the glaciers. As I previously stated:
From what I have read from competent sources, is yes glaciers are indeed retreating over time, but at a variable rate, and some at times increase due to high snowfall. The science of global warming is far more comprehensive in scope than the pattern of advance and retreat of glaciers.
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Yeah the seasons continue for the most part. It is difficult to distinguish what is political and what is scientific. Still the climate does gradually change, and we should do something about pollution in the oceans. There is some important research going on about plankton to find out why it is dying off. If the plankton dies that will hurt us long before the climate noticeably changes. I did enjoy the film Day After Tomorrow where the climatologist suddenly realized that all of the climate change models needed to be sped up and New York was frozen by a vacuum tornado touching down from space. Climate can change, obviously.
Salvador
RF's Swedenborgian
China closed 40 percent of its factories in 2017, which China claims was done in order to reduce their pollution. China Has Shut Down Up to 40% of Its Factories in an Unprecedented Stand Against Pollution
Imo, the real reason China closed many of its factories was because the Chinese government realized Trump's upcoming tariffs against the environmentally reckless and unfair Chinese trade practitioners were going to put manufacturers based in China out of business
Hopefully, Trump's trade war against the environmentally reckless and unfair Chinese trade practitioners will shift manufacturing production from outdated factories having polluted the air with smog and green house gases to American factories using more environmental friendly energy like clean burning coal or natural gas.
Imo, the real reason China closed many of its factories was because the Chinese government realized Trump's upcoming tariffs against the environmentally reckless and unfair Chinese trade practitioners were going to put manufacturers based in China out of business
Hopefully, Trump's trade war against the environmentally reckless and unfair Chinese trade practitioners will shift manufacturing production from outdated factories having polluted the air with smog and green house gases to American factories using more environmental friendly energy like clean burning coal or natural gas.
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dfnj
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Salvador
RF's Swedenborgian
A practical, affordable and effective way of reducing green house gas emissions, which come from burning oil , would be to replace oil energy with nuclear energy, natural gas and clean burning coal.
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Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Coal is far from clean burning and has a higher percentage of carbon than oil. I do hope that you were trying to make a joke.