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Internet Speed

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
I'm wondering what speed other people get. I'm still stuck with ADSL and during the day get speeds up to 14Mbps but drop to about 3Mbps during peak times.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
I'm wondering what speed other people get. I'm still stuck with ADSL and during the day get speeds up to 14Mbps but drop to about 3Mbps during peak times.

3.5 MB/s down so far is my best using Steam. It is part of a higher end package but not the best speeds offered by Shaw cable.

That is bytes not bits. So 4-5 mins to download a Gigabyte
 
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ManSinha

Well-Known Member
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West Coast - USA Comcast using a D Link 860L DIR modem - this is wireless - not tethered
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
I'm wondering what speed other people get. I'm still stuck with ADSL and during the day get speeds up to 14Mbps but drop to about 3Mbps during peak times.

No NBN where you are? :eek: You will appreciate the NBN with increased speed, but less reliability. ADSL will be turned off in many parts of OZ soon. I was told not to jump before I was pushed by my provider. Have had nothing but trouble with drop outs and lagging although being promised speed.....never really got the speed. Should be 22mbps but lucky to get 17mbps on a good day. The joys of technology that was obsolete before they even started it. :rolleyes:
 

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
No NBN where you are? :eek: You will appreciate the NBN with increased speed, but less reliability. ADSL will be turned off in many parts of OZ soon. I was told not to jump before I was pushed by my provider. Have had nothing but trouble with drop outs and lagging although being promised speed.....never really got the speed. Should be 22mbps but lucky to get 17mbps on a good day. The joys of technology that was obsolete before they even started it. :rolleyes:

No NBN yet, it was supposed to be connected 4 years ago and keeps getting put back and it will only be the 2nd rate fibre to the node version when it does come. They did the cabling last year and started digging the node holes this week so hopefully before the end of the year. Won't cure my biggest internet problem which is the phone pit out the front of the house fills with water everytime it rains and the internet is useless for a month -.-
 

Bob the Unbeliever

Well-Known Member
Cox, high speed cable. Roughly 30Mbps download (tests to 34 just now-- am paying for 30, so good)

Upload is slow-- supposed to be 5Mbps, tests to 3. I can live with that.

I just upgraded to Google's WiFi Mesh gizmo. Basically mesh is like regular wifi, except you can expand it by buying more pucks, adding them to the mesh, and it's seamless across all the pucks you have. One puck is the primary one, and connects direct to a modem of some sort. It's recommended you use cat5 or cat6 ethernet direct to the puck (in fact, you may have to). But since you can have as many pucks as you can afford? (they are pricy, at $100/pop) you put one right next to the modem, then add a second or third or whatever, to get the coverage you want. You can daisy chain the pucks using cat5/6 but once you set up the first? All the remainder can be wireless extensions of that one, just needing a power outlet. They use a USB-c power supply, and that's included (and non-detachable cable)

I have just the one, which replaced my dying Belkin.

Works. Was really annoying to set up-- massive examples of hurry up and wait....wait.... wait.... wait... WAIT... wait... which is typical Google.

(seriously? You need to unplug everything for a full 2 minutes? what?)

Anyway, once all that annoyance is done? It works. Self-updates as Google rolls out new security updates.

Warning: Older WiFi printers may not work-- it requires at least WEP2. And setting up a non-smart device? (like a printer.... ) is even more annoying-- I have not done mine yet. But I will.
 

ManSinha

Well-Known Member
Cox, high speed cable. Roughly 30Mbps download (tests to 34 just now-- am paying for 30, so good)

Upload is slow-- supposed to be 5Mbps, tests to 3. I can live with that.

I just upgraded to Google's WiFi Mesh gizmo. Basically mesh is like regular wifi, except you can expand it by buying more pucks, adding them to the mesh, and it's seamless across all the pucks you have. One puck is the primary one, and connects direct to a modem of some sort. It's recommended you use cat5 or cat6 ethernet direct to the puck (in fact, you may have to). But since you can have as many pucks as you can afford? (they are pricy, at $100/pop) you put one right next to the modem, then add a second or third or whatever, to get the coverage you want. You can daisy chain the pucks using cat5/6 but once you set up the first? All the remainder can be wireless extensions of that one, just needing a power outlet. They use a USB-c power supply, and that's included (and non-detachable cable)

I have just the one, which replaced my dying Belkin.

Works. Was really annoying to set up-- massive examples of hurry up and wait....wait.... wait.... wait... WAIT... wait... which is typical Google.

(seriously? You need to unplug everything for a full 2 minutes? what?)

Anyway, once all that annoyance is done? It works. Self-updates as Google rolls out new security updates.

Warning: Older WiFi printers may not work-- it requires at least WEP2. And setting up a non-smart device? (like a printer.... ) is even more annoying-- I have not done mine yet. But I will.

There is also the D Link Covr which routes some of the internet using electrical wiring - my printer is hooked up using this method - it is networked but not wireless per se.
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
No NBN yet, it was supposed to be connected 4 years ago and keeps getting put back and it will only be the 2nd rate fibre to the node version when it does come. They did the cabling last year and started digging the node holes this week so hopefully before the end of the year. Won't cure my biggest internet problem which is the phone pit out the front of the house fills with water everytime it rains and the internet is useless for a month -.-

I have the same problem with a phone pit outside my house. But fibre to the node is a joke. If you are too far away from the node you get big problems. I wouldn't be an NBN technician for quids. Every time they come to fix something, they just tell me how limited I am because I am 1.2 Klms away from the node. Using old Telstra copper cable makes it all work so well....NOT! o_O

NBN lets you have VOIP, which if the net drops out, you have no phone. :rolleyes: It's really cheap, which is the only good thing. They just expect everyone to have a mobile.

My mother has Vital Call and the net was so unreliable that they put them all on wireless with their own SIM card. How backwards are we? :confused: Good grief!
 

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
I have the same problem with a phone pit outside my house. But fibre to the node is a joke. If you are too far away from the node you get big problems. I wouldn't be an NBN technician for quids. Every time they come to fix something, they just tell me how limited I am because I am 1.2 Klms away from the node. Using old Telstra copper cable makes it all work so well....NOT! o_O

NBN lets you have VOIP, which if the net drops out, you have no phone. :rolleyes: It's really cheap, which is the only good thing. They just expect everyone to have a mobile.

My mother has Vital Call and the net was so unreliable that they put them all on wireless with their own SIM card. How backwards are we? :confused: Good grief!

FTTN is a stupid system and has ended up costing more but what can we do. The last Telstra tech who came to pump out the pit told me the copper wire where I live is falling apart but there is a plan to replace it all so they won't do repairs. When will that be he couldn't answer. The good news for me is that I'm at the end of a cul-de-sac and the node is going across the road so its only 3 houses away, about 75m if you take in the bend of the footpath.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
We are on on VDSL, unfortunately no fibre nearby. The speed at the router varies depending on what day it is and what time. The more people connected to the exchange and using the internet the slower it goes


At the router we get a download speed between 72 and 82 mbps and upload between 18 and 24 mbps

Currently 81.5/20.4
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Cox, high speed cable. Roughly 30Mbps download (tests to 34 just now-- am paying for 30, so good)

Upload is slow-- supposed to be 5Mbps, tests to 3. I can live with that.

I just upgraded to Google's WiFi Mesh gizmo. Basically mesh is like regular wifi, except you can expand it by buying more pucks, adding them to the mesh, and it's seamless across all the pucks you have. One puck is the primary one, and connects direct to a modem of some sort. It's recommended you use cat5 or cat6 ethernet direct to the puck (in fact, you may have to). But since you can have as many pucks as you can afford? (they are pricy, at $100/pop) you put one right next to the modem, then add a second or third or whatever, to get the coverage you want. You can daisy chain the pucks using cat5/6 but once you set up the first? All the remainder can be wireless extensions of that one, just needing a power outlet. They use a USB-c power supply, and that's included (and non-detachable cable)

I have just the one, which replaced my dying Belkin.

Works. Was really annoying to set up-- massive examples of hurry up and wait....wait.... wait.... wait... WAIT... wait... which is typical Google.

(seriously? You need to unplug everything for a full 2 minutes? what?)

Anyway, once all that annoyance is done? It works. Self-updates as Google rolls out new security updates.

Warning: Older WiFi printers may not work-- it requires at least WEP2. And setting up a non-smart device? (like a printer.... ) is even more annoying-- I have not done mine yet. But I will.

Our house is long and narrow, the router is close to the front door. The wifi signal at the back and out in the rear courtyard was abysmal. Two solutions.

A wifi repeater, cost about 16€, plugs in to the mains just before the signal starts dropping off extends the signal. Devices just connect to whichever signal is strongest

The other trick we used, our office is at the back of the house, 2 pcs barely getting wifi. A usb cable with the wifi dongle plugged in then position/glue the dongle in the dish of a metal cullender/strainer. Fix to the wall directed at the router. Signal strength went from below 20% to above 90%

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We did this before buying the extender and its so successful we kept it and still use it for the pcs

Edit : forgot to say, we are with orange internet using a livebox 3 modem (sagem with voip and tv)
 
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Up to 100 Mbps download (although usually in the mid 90s), usually about 20 Mbps upload.

Costs about $110 with cable TV.

Could get 250Mbps if I fancied paying an extra $100 a month (which I don't)
 
3.5 MB/s down so far is my best using Steam. I

Do you find you tend to get a significantly better d/l speed on Steam than you do on any speedtest site?

I often seem to get above my purported bandwidth, although this might be some Jedi mind trick that results from intensely staring at the d/l screen and insisting that it hurries the **** up with some unwanted update so I can play my game :D
 

Bob the Unbeliever

Well-Known Member
Our house is long and narrow, the router is close to the front door. The wifi signal at the back and out in the rear courtyard was abysmal. Two solutions.

A wifi repeater, cost about 16€, plugs in to the mains just before the signal starts dropping off extends the signal. Devices just connect to whichever signal is strongest

The other trick we used, our office is at the back of the house, 2 pcs barely getting wifi. A usb cable with the wifi dongle plugged in then position/glue the dongle in the dish of a metal cullender/strainer. Fix to the wall directed at the router. Signal strength went from below 20% to above 90%

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We did this before buying the extender and its so successful we kept it and still use it for the pcs

Edit : forgot to say, we are with orange internet using a livebox 3 modem (sagem with voip and tv)

Oh, yes-- those WiFi extenders are pretty cool. They are a kind of "mesh" only without the transparency of actual mesh.

I have one at Work-- WiFi at work is by the good graces of our nextdoor neighbor. He runs a bar, and has open WiFi. Bar is from 2pm to close, and we are from 8:30 to 5, so the overlap is small. With his blessing, we use their open wifi. (It's a mutual benefit relationship-- he is always borrowing ladders or tools-- we're a pawn shop)

But I was unhappy with the poor signal, through the wall, going another 50 feet. So I put an extender right up against the wall, next to the bar-- it gets full bars. And anywhere in our store gets full bars from the extender.

Unlike mesh, which is all one WiFi Domain? His is XYZ-Open, and ours is ZW2-Secure. (not real names ;) )

The cool thing about the extender I purchased? Once you get past the For Stupid People interface, and dig into the Advanced pages? You can do lots of cool things. It inhibits device-to-device communication within our secure WiFi cell, and other security related things. So, even though we "see" the Interwebs via an open WiFi net? All that anyone not on our secure net sees, is the extender itself. Not perfect, but it Works.

Mesh, on the other hand? Would all be the same-- for example, Mine at home, had I the one puck or 20? Would all be "DEA_Surveillance_Van_63" (for example.... not the real name, but wouldn't that be cute?) All devices on the Mesh would simply be handed off from one puck to the next. Exactly like cellular telephony.
 

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
FTTN is a stupid system and has ended up costing more but what can we do. The last Telstra tech who came to pump out the pit told me the copper wire where I live is falling apart but there is a plan to replace it all so they won't do repairs. When will that be he couldn't answer. The good news for me is that I'm at the end of a cul-de-sac and the node is going across the road so its only 3 houses away, about 75m if you take in the bend of the footpath.

Spoke too soon. I talked to the workers and it's a NBN pillar not a node. They will be running new copper wire from the node to the pillar, why they are using copper instead of fibre is anyone's guess, fibre is cheaper and better. The node in every street claim was just another LNP lie.

Welcome to Australia where we pay 55 billion for ancient technology -.-
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
Spoke too soon. I talked to the workers and it's a NBN pillar not a node. They will be running new copper wire from the node to the pillar, why they are using copper instead of fibre is anyone's guess, fibre is cheaper and better. The node in every street claim was just another LNP lie.

Welcome to Australia where we pay 55 billion for ancient technology -.-

Whoever had shares in this technology is laughing all the way to the bank whilst they bathe in the tears of so many frustrated customers. The NBN technicians are as unhappy with the situation as we are. They are the ones who are often on the receiving end of unhappy customers.....the city dwellers obviously get a better deal than us country bumpkins, but we still pay for a system that was antiquated before it was even rolled out. :(

New Zealand has fiber to the curb....they love it...no issues apparently because it delivers what they expected. All who were originally connected to NBN in Sydney were fiber to the curb and they are all happy.....but when they realized how much more it was going to cost to provide that to the rest of us......we got thrown the crumbs and the most pathetic system imaginable for what it costs.

Telstra knew that 5G was coming so instead of fixing the old stuff, they will offer that instead. Disgruntled customers will flock to them for better internet.....was this all planned??? o_O

What a wonderful world we live in. :rolleyes:
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
We are on on VDSL, unfortunately no fibre nearby. The speed at the router varies depending on what day it is and what time. The more people connected to the exchange and using the internet the slower it goes


At the router we get a download speed between 72 and 82 mbps and upload between 18 and 24 mbps

Currently 81.5/20.4

Wow!!! We can only dream of speeds like that. 5G will probably offer great speed but the increase in radiation is a worry. I would prefer cable to the house over wireless for that reason. It worries me that no long term studies have been done, especially with young children being exposed to increasing cumulative radiation levels at home and at school....despite what is said to the contrary, I do not trust them to tell the truth when so much money is involved.

I have read that radiation exposure can alter DNA, and that children absorb more. That has to be a concern.
 
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