Free will is the foundation stone of Christianity, the right to choose.
I think that the fundamental message in Christianity is to submit. Free will is anathema to Christianity, the enemy of submission, and a potent indicator that the god of the Christian Bible did not create mankind, or else screwed up when it did. Free will is antithetical to the entire Christian message, which is to quash your free will and obey. Christianity doesn't respect the right to choose. It doesn't allow one to hold any religious faith or none at all, but to only worship its god. It tells you that there is only one way to avoid perdition, and that is through submission and obedience to the will of its god, not your free will or mine.
I'm sure that you disagree, but perhaps this time you can do so unemotionally and without personal comments.
Unlike the religion of peace, our, foundation documents prescribe no coercion by violence or any other means to convert.
Documents don't matter to the outsider looking in. It's the real-time rendering of the religion that matters. The believer points to the Bible and says that this is what a true Christian is like. The outsider looks around himself and at the news to decide what Christianity actually is and what it does - what kind of people it makes, and what effect it has on them and the rest of us.
it isn't about others it is about us.
Yes, we know.
Christians should hate science ? why ?
Should? The comment was, "Christians hate science." This was not a recommendation.
But yes, many Christians are afraid of science for contradicting what they have chosen to believe by faith. That's what happens when you guess, and guess wrong. The evidence contradicts you, so you need to contradict the interpretation of that evidence or pretend that it doesn't exist.
Surely you've seen plenty of this on these threads - people telling others, for example, that there is no such thing as evolution beyond what has been directly observed due to some unseen barrier employing some unseen mechanism to halt the process of evolution after a few generations. These people feel threatened by the science.
These are same people who tell us that a living cell seems too complicated to them to have arisen naturalistically, and that therefore something orders of magnitude more complex, a god, must exist to account for the cell. Does that come off as sound thinking to you?
you carefully hand picked statements you allege are from leaders of Christianity, they are not
Not what - Statements promoting theocratic ideas, or prominent theologians?
Yes, I carefully hand-picked examples that support my thesis that there is a theocratic movement in America. What do you suppose all of the Brett Kavanaugh fuss was about, or all of these recent anti-abortion bills? These are evidence of efforts to get the state to do the church's bidding. Those are theocratic tendencies already in high places in government. It's clear that theocracy is what they have in mind.
Did you have a rebuttal beside "they are not"?
The quotations certainly do not represent mainstream Christian beliefs, but you know this. I would love to know the context of these statements.
Feel free to do your own research. I can't imagine that any surrounding context would change the apparent meaning oof their words. For example, what do you propose that Randall Terry, Director of Operation Rescue, might have said either before or after, "I want you to let a wave of hatred wash over you. Yes, hate is good . . . our goal is a Christian nation. We have the biblical duty, we are called on by God to conquer this country. We don't want equal time. We don't want pluralism" that turns that into anything other than an angry, hateful, threat to the US Constitution and Americans' freedom from religion?
You call these people like Terry, Falwell, and Robertson outliers, yet they are precisely the type of Christian that rises to power and influence, and names that are well-known to Christians and non-Christians alike. Their messages resonate with unseen millions of people watching them on TV at home, and sending them checks. These are not outliers. They are a huge chunk of Christianity.
I certainly was not saying all atheists are inconsiderate, crude, cretins when discussing Christianity with Christians, only some are.
Your contempt for atheists is palpable. You conceal it for awhile, but then get angry, and there it is.
True Christians only ever brought good to the world.
This is a famous fallacy, No True Scotsman, which really ought to be renamed No True Christian, since it's almost always in precisely this context that the fallacy ir resurrected.
There are no true or false Christians, just those that you think reflect well on the religion and those that you would like to distance yourself from, often by pointing to scripture. As I mentioned elsewhere, all Christians are true Christians, even the ones that embarrass Christianity. Robert Lewis Dear, who shot up a Planned Parenthood to save the babies was a (true) Christian. The skinheads proclaiming white Christian superiority are (true) Christians.
If you want to know how good a car is, you don't go by the literature in the dealer's showroom. You test drive the car and see how it performs. Likewise with Christianity. Forget the book. Look around you to discover what (true) Christianity is.