Skwim
Veteran Member
hallowed
/ˈhalōd/
adjective
adjective: hallowed
made holy; consecrated.
/ˈhalōd/
adjective
adjective: hallowed
made holy; consecrated.
"and if He wanted man to fly He would have given him wings...."
(Thank you BSM1, post #3)
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Ultrasound pictures of unborn babies should not be ...
- Thread starter Jonathan Bailey
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So who consecrated the womb or made it holy?
"and if He wanted man to fly He would have given him wings...."
(Thank you BSM1, post #3)
Jonathan Bailey
Well-Known Member
Ok, if Mother Nature had wanted fetuses to viewed by all the world, she would have given women see-through glass wombs. Of course, glass is rigid and won't contract like flesh and skin to push the baby out.
I hope ultrasound does not endanger the mother or unborn child by exposure to something bad like radiation.
Jonathan Bailey
Well-Known Member
For believers in God, human life was created by God and is blessed. The newly-created life in the womb is a blessed thing.
Ultrasound uses sound waves. There is no radiation.
Jonathan Bailey
Well-Known Member
So, I guess it's then clinically safe for mother and child. If that's so, then bless it if it leads to healthy mothers and babies.
Doctors have told me that the x-rays I've had for my chest pose a cancer risk. I've been told that about bacon too though
I enjoy a bacon double cheeseburger once in a while.
Perhaps the issue would be resolved if we had ultrasound machines consecrated prior to use?
Ellen Brown
Well-Known Member
I'm going to chicken out on this one...
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Oh please.........
Now we've got rid of your definite God you fall back on Mother Nature. Mother Nature is an unconcerned Deity, and has always demanded that only the strongest survive, She takes both mothers and children just as her raptors take life for their own young.
Don't tell me that you follow Her calls, or you would leave females everywhere to decide for themselves on contraception, birth control and early abortion as far as possible.
You hope! ????
What?!! So you're supporting the manipulation of many hundreds of thousands of women when you don't actually have a clue what you're talking about?
You're not gaining any humanitarian points on this one.
Skwim
Veteran Member
shmogie
Well-Known Member
The law requires it to be in writing, form US231-02-b
I don't know that I agree with that. As a Humanist, and also as an atheist, I have no desire whatever to pass laws with respect to what people believe. No desire to make religion illegal, nor plain stupidity, either, since both are impossible. I am a strong believer in freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, freedom of the will of a competent adult to do what they want with their own persons. I did not want to a law to "make cannabis legal," I wanted the law the made it illegal removed, although I personally don't like cannabis at all, and never, ever use it.
I have no desire to make all the world like me...that would bore me to absolute death!
Jonathan Bailey
Well-Known Member
I believe medical marijuana can benefit people with pain and illness. It helped comfort my great grandmother as she was dying of cancer.
I don't condone just doing it for pleasure. I believe it can lead to health issues like smoking tobacco and should be limited to medical use.
In some forms, medical marijuana can be consumed with food rather than be smoked and still be effective.
Medical marijuana still should be controlled at least to the extent of tobacco and alcohol. Those whose sell it or push it on to minors should be punished.
Perhaps it should be sold without the need for a prescription from a doctor like aspirin and cough syrup but still be regulated to the extent of alcohol and tobacco because some patients might be in serious pain and their doctors won't sympathize with them. We don't want children getting a hold of pot any more than we want them to get a hold of beer, booze and cigarettes.
Driving under the influence of pot should be punished stiffly as should be driving under the influence of alcohol.
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Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Why not for pleasure? I live in a state where it is legal, but I do not like the effects on myself. But I am not going to tell others that because I don't like it that they can't have it. What is wrong with recreational use of marijuana?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Xray does indeed emit electromagnetic waves that are in the minimum range required to cause breaks in the atomic bonding in DNA that can potentially lead to cancer. But as a patient you are exposed to ranges deemed generally safe. The technicians, on the other hand, have to take cover so they aren't exposed all day every day, which would be a major health hazard.
Jonathan Bailey
Well-Known Member
Well, if it sold over the counter like aspirin, chances are it would be used recreationally. So, yes why not just legalize recreational pot.I would hate for some doctor to deny a cancer patient this drug in a state where it is restricted to prescriptions or recommendations from doctors. Legalizing it for over the counter sales to adults only takes the old-fashioned "hippie-hating" redneck doctors out of the equation.
I just personally don't like it for recreational use but might use it if I felt it might help as a medical patient or a doctor recommended it: I don't smoke tobacco or drink alcohol much but both are legal to buy for recreational use for people of age, 18 or 21 depending upon the product and jurisdiction.
I live in Oklahoma now but here I think it's restricted to doctor's prescription and might even be restricted to CBD oil.
I believe in many cases it has to have THC to be effective as painkiller or an appetite stimulator for chemo patients.
CBD alone might not cut it for some patients.
I would also like to see medical marijuana affordable to low-income patients and paid for by Medicare, Medicaid, private insurance and even VA medical benefits. I do want to see marijuana decriminalized at the federal level. It might be too expensive for poor cancer patients to buy at the drugstore out of pocket.
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Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
I have not used it in any way, but yes I have heard good things about its pain relieving capabilities.
There was a slight peak in auto accidents as a result of legalization. Don't let anyone fool you that people do not get high and drive. When it was illegal they were too afraid to do so, but now that it is legal, just as some drink and drive, some smoke and drive.
Jonathan Bailey
Well-Known Member
I get Vicodin/Norco, an opiate from the VA pharmacy already sometimes. It's controlled and illegal to use while driving in many jurisdictions so I never dare drive while taking it. So if the federal government allows opiates for patients including morphine in some cases it should also allow medical marijuana. Driving under the influence of pot, alcohol and even prescription opiates all should have equally stiff penalties, of course.
How do you think these things start, even if it's just from one person?
Every ideology can and does, BUT some ideologies do it so much better than others.