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Ultrasound pictures of unborn babies should not be ...

Jonathan Bailey

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exhibited publicly. The interior of the womb is a hallowed and private place for human life to begin.

It is disrespectful to the privacy of unborn children to show images publically as by the media.

Ultrasound tech might be OK for doctors to treat women great with child in private settings.

If God had wanted the whole world to view unborn babies, he would have made Eve with a window in her belly.
 
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BSM1

What? Me worry?
exhibited publicly. The interior of the womb is a hallowed and private place for human life to begin.

It is disrespectful to the privacy of unborn children to show images publically as by the media.

Ultrasound tech might be OK for doctors to treat women great with child.

If God had wanted the whole world to view unborn babies, he would have made Eve with a window in her belly.


...and if He wanted man to fly He would have given him wings....
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
That's just the sort of irrational and subjective opinion, described as coming from God, that leaves me convinced that religious people don't know any more about God than I do.
Tom
 

Rival

Si m'ait Dieus
Staff member
Premium Member
Or G-d made us intelligent so that we could look upon this beauty, this development from a couple of cells into a human.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
How stupid. I guess your god doesn't want parents and doctors to know if their fetus has an abnormality or disease or research to be done that requires looking in the uterus of a pregnant person. Yeah, that makes sense, if your deity is completely irrational.
 

74x12

Well-Known Member
exhibited publicly. The interior of the womb is a hallowed and private place for human life to begin.

It is disrespectful to the privacy of unborn children to show images publically as by the media.

Ultrasound tech might be OK for doctors to treat women great with child in private settings.

If God had wanted the whole world to view unborn babies, he would have made Eve with a window in her belly.
You're trollin? ... I think you're just saying that because you're pro-choice and don't like how pro-lifers use these images for their cause.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
That's just the sort of irrational and subjective opinion, described as coming from God, that leaves me convinced that religious people don't know any more about God than I do.
Tom

I say this all the time. I wish you luck...
 

suncowiam

Well-Known Member
This is the backwards thinking that just scares the crap out of me concerning religion.

A stupid opinion with the supposed backing of God.

With the string of anti-abortion laws coming through, I understand now that Sharia Laws doesn't just exist in Islam.
 

Rival

Si m'ait Dieus
Staff member
Premium Member
This is the backwards thinking that just scares the crap out of me concerning religion.

A stupid opinion with the supposed backing of God.
This isn't from religion. This is a person's opinion; an opinion that I have never heard until today.
 

David T

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Agreed. I am totally offended by opened pea pods.
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suncowiam

Well-Known Member
This isn't from religion. This is a person's opinion; an opinion that I have never heard until today.

Do I need to give you a list of irrational religious beliefs, present and from history, that aren't based on observation, hence science?

It's one thing to believe in an almighty being. It's another to espouse supposed beliefs and, then ultimately pass laws, based on the thinking of an almighty being.
 

Rival

Si m'ait Dieus
Staff member
Premium Member
Do I need to give you a list of irrational religious beliefs that aren't based on observation hence science?

It's one thing to belief in an almighty being. It's another to espouse supposed beliefs and, then ultimately pass laws, from such an almighty being.
We're not talking about that. We're talking about one person's opinion on ultra-sounds. You don't just get to blame religion as a whole for one person's opinion. And of course people are going to try to pass laws based on their beliefs, that's what everybody does. Every ideology, political, religious or otherwise, is a belief, and many have irrational, bizarre people within them.
 

Brickjectivity

Turned to Stone. Now I stretch daily.
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exhibited publicly. The interior of the womb is a hallowed and private place for human life to begin.

It is disrespectful to the privacy of unborn children to show images publically as by the media.

Ultrasound tech might be OK for doctors to treat women great with child in private settings.

If God had wanted the whole world to view unborn babies, he would have made Eve with a window in her belly.
Its an interesting mental exercise to ask if its the fetus's womb or the mother's, but its not going to persuade the anti-abortion movement to rationally compromise. Its a movement that demonizes all opposition.

There is a parable about a contest between the wind and the sun to see who can get a man to remove his jacket. The winds blows hard, but the man only tightens his jacket in response. The sun shines on him warmly, and he takes it off for himself. The sun wins the contest.

Similarly have you ever heard the story of William Wilberforce? He petitions his English monarch and representatives to end the slave trade, but they won't do it. He goes to the public, and the public won't do it. No one supports him except for a fraction. He does get some sympathy from some mp's and some of the populace, and they form a plan. They slip in an addendum which de funds sugar. Suddenly with no reason to buy slaves, the government gives in and slavery is abolished.

This issue will not be settled with direct argument and face to face contests. You have to take away the money from those benefiting. Only then can reason determine a reasonable outcome. The anti-abortion and the pro-choice must both support election reform, or nothing will change. The issue will remain hot, just as it has for 40 years. It will continue to be so for the next 100.
 

Jonathan Bailey

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How stupid. I guess your god doesn't want parents and doctors to know if their fetus has an abnormality or disease or research to be done that requires looking in the uterus of a pregnant person. Yeah, that makes sense, if your deity is completely irrational.

Well, I was saying ultrasound was OK for doctors in medical treatment but please respect the privacy of these viable human beings in the womb: my beef is with the mass media not women or medicine. I've had my chest x-rayed, head Cat-scanned and back MRI'ed as well as my bowels examined for colon cancer with a butt camera and stomach examined with a swallowed camera for ulcers several times but not broadcast all over CNN or YouTube. I've also had barium swallow imagery on a live TV cam for acid reflux disorder and that stuff tastes horrible like epsom salt or GoLytely.
 
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SalixIncendium

अग्निविलोवनन्दः
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Well, I was saying ultrasound was OK for doctors in medical treatment but please respect the privacy of these viable human beings in the womb: my beef is with the mass media not women or medicine. I've had my chest x-rayed and my bowels examined for colon cancer with a camera several times but not broadcast all over CNN or YouTube.

So this thread is about jealousy?

If it will make you feel better, I have a YouTube channel if you want me upload them for you.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
Well, I was saying ultrasound was OK for doctors in medical treatment but please respect the privacy of these viable human beings in the womb: my beef is with the mass media not women or medicine. I've had my chest x-rayed, head Cat-scanned and back MRI'ed as well as my bowels examined for colon cancer with a butt camera and stomach examined with a swallowed camera for ulcers several times but not broadcast all over CNN or YouTube. I've also had barium swallow imagery on a live TV cam for acid reflux disorder and that stuff tastes horrible like epsom salt.
Who cares. Fetuses don't.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
exhibited publicly. The interior of the womb is a hallowed and private place for human life to begin.

It is disrespectful to the privacy of unborn children to show images publically as by the media.

Ultrasound tech might be OK for doctors to treat women great with child in private settings.

If God had wanted the whole world to view unborn babies, he would have made Eve with a window in her belly.

Hang on.
You're not even certain about there definitely being a God!

You only subscribe to the possibility of there being Supreme Being(s).

All this is waffle.
 
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