I am correct here.
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AOC Champion of Science!
- Thread starter Enoch07
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Please identify the sentence you think is false in her statements in the OP
Kangaroo Feathers
Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
"Climate change isn't real, because Mark Twain knew snow was a thing"
The fact she doesn't understand the difference between weather and climate. I'll break it down even further.
It's spring going into summer here. This is the time of year when tornados are most common. Tornado climatology - Wikipedia So as you can see it's common to have this type of weather for this season. Just because it's a tornado is not an indication of climate change in an of itself.
Now if it was December or January (winter time) and there was a tornado warning. That would be evidence of climate change. And AOC would be correct.
This is why she's clueless.
BSM1
What? Me worry?
Sooo...how much has the globe warmed in, say, the last fifty years? Or thirty years? or ten years?
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
It's truly unfortunate that so many will take the word of right-wing politicians & media over the overwhelming number of climate scientists that have concluded that we are indeed experiencing climate change that could be catastrophic to billions of people worldwide, which even our DoD here in the States has also concluded, as well as the NAS, NASA, NOAA, etc.
That's not a moderate stance. Future generations will revile people who took such a selfish and short-sighted stance.
BSM1
What? Me worry?
Soooo...you sayin' there will be future generations even though we will be annihilated by catastrophic climate change in twelve years? Well, if that's true I guess I'll go gas up the SUV.
Shad
Veteran Member
How dare I not turn absolute power over to government on the word of experts telling me to do so.
My best guess is that when a BILLION people have to relocate and when aquifers start drying out things are going to get really, really bad. I don't think humans will go extinct, but I think things will be truly awful, everywhere.
On a personal note, why not debate in good faith rather than embarrassing yourself with strawman and false dilemma arguments?
Nice false dilemma, care to guess again?
BSM1
What? Me worry?
Maybe if people would stop trying to sell this totally unprovable "climate change" as the end of civilization as we know it, then maybe your argument gains a little more credibility.
Here's just one topic among many: Greenland's glaciers and ice covers are all melting at rates much faster than previously predicted, and the rate of melting is increasing, not decreasing. If all of Greenland's ice were to melt, sea levels would rise at least 20 feet. Here's a recent National Geographic article on this topic:
Greenland’s ice is melting four times faster than thought—what it means
AOC is no “Champion of Science”. She has no academic nor experiential expertise in science. Indeed she has shown repeatedly a profound lack of scientific acumen. Even left leaning media such as the Washington Post agree that she can’t even be trusted on basic mathematics.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...efense-her-falsehoods/?utm_term=.87a3422b4bea
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...efense-her-falsehoods/?utm_term=.87a3422b4bea
Kangaroo Feathers
Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
Yes I know, note the quotation marks
AOC claims to want to fight climate change but actually knows little to nothing about it. Don't ya think if she actually cares she would learn the basics? A tornado during the spring/summer months is natural. There would be tornados during this time of the year even if humans never existed. So to say its indicative of human induced climate change is a just an ignorant statement.
And for other educated people to blindly pick up her statement and defend it only shows how dangerous it is for an influential person to promote something they do not fully understand.
Had the time of year been different, say winter instead of spring. I would have no issues with what she said at all. She would have cited real evidence of climate change.
Is it a bit nitpicky? Sure, but when you are a politician supporting an issue you should be knowledgable enough to not be low hanging fruit like she is.
ah gotcha! sorry, i missed that
Kangaroo Feathers
Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
No probs
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
The verdict on climate change is really quite clear. I have been a long-term subscriber to "Scientific American" for more than five decades, and we've seen the evolution of thinking over these many years because correctly assigning evidence to events, and vice-versa, isn't always that easy.
However, especially over the last two decades, there's been enough evidence compiled to clearly indicate that we are in a warming trend and that there can be and will be some serious repercussions, some of which we are already seeing.
AOC is not a climate scientist, but she clearly knows at least enough to know the basics of what's taking place and why it's happening. OTOH, there unfortunately are some other people who blindly believe the right-wing political sources over what the scientists have concluded, and yet that latter element tends to so dismissive so as to try demean those that dare cite actual science, such as AOC has.
However, especially over the last two decades, there's been enough evidence compiled to clearly indicate that we are in a warming trend and that there can be and will be some serious repercussions, some of which we are already seeing.
AOC is not a climate scientist, but she clearly knows at least enough to know the basics of what's taking place and why it's happening. OTOH, there unfortunately are some other people who blindly believe the right-wing political sources over what the scientists have concluded, and yet that latter element tends to so dismissive so as to try demean those that dare cite actual science, such as AOC has.