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How things change in politics.

Kenny

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
"Trump is abusing his power to declassify information and wielding it as a weapon in his ongoing war against the U.S. intelligence community."
'Unprecedented': Trump weaponizes FBI documents to sabotage Russia probe

this is now the talking point that Trump is weaponizing documents whereas the question also remains on whether the previous administration weaponized intelligence against Trump.

Whatever happened to "Let's find out the truth"?

Or is it that the truth will put people in hot water and therefore they are creating another false theory like collusion?

"In testimony, former FBI Director James Comey says that prior to signing a FISA application to obtain a warrant to conduct surveillance on Carter Page, a former adviser to President Trump’s 2016 campaign, Comey was aware that the dossier authored by former British spy Christopher Steele was financed by Democrats who opposed President Donald Trump.

Yet according to Democratic and Republican House Intelligence memos, that information was not specifically included in the FISA application, which in part relied on Steele’s work to obtain warrants to monitor Page. "
James Comey Admits He Knew Democrats Financed 'Pee' Dossier

Was there a reason why they didn't include it? Was there collusion here?

"Former Attorney General Loretta Lynch accused former FBI Director James Comey of mischaracterizing her statements under oath by repeatedly alleging she instructed him to call the Hillary Clinton email probe a “matter” instead of an “investigation.”

Transcripts: Loretta Lynch Accused James Comey of Lying Under Oath | People's Pundit Daily

For example, Comey and Brennan are at each others throats over who pushed the dossier.

James Comey Admits He Knew Democrats Financed 'Pee' Dossier

Is this where those who plotted begin to unravel themselves against each other for safety sake? Or is it a one time only mistake?

Personally, I want to know who is lying about weaponizing departments. It's time we really get to the bottom of this. I'm glad for those who were prosecuted in the investigation but It certainly looks like they were only looking at those in the Republican party and not giving a full report which should have included both parties. IMO.
 
ecco

ecco

Veteran Member
KenS said:
"In testimony, former FBI Director James Comey says that prior to signing a FISA application to obtain a warrant to conduct surveillance on Carter Page, a former adviser to President Trump’s 2016 campaign, Comey was aware that the dossier authored by former British spy Christopher Steele was financed by Democrats who opposed President Donald Trump.

Yet according to Democratic and Republican House Intelligence memos, that information was not specifically included in the FISA application, which in part relied on Steele’s work to obtain warrants to monitor Page. "
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You have this in quotes. Who said this? Well, if we look at your link we see that it was not a quote, it was a cut and paste of the words written by
AARON KLEIN10 Dec 2018
in an article on the BREITBART website.

Ken, is that really the best you can do? Quoting from an ultraconservative right-wing talk show personality who wrote a piece for an ultraconservative right-wing web site? That's pathetic.
 
Kenny

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
ecco said:
You have this in quotes. Who said this? Well, if we look at your link we see that it was not a quote, it was a cut and paste of the words written by
AARON KLEIN10 Dec 2018
in an article on the BREITBART website.

Ken, is that really the best you can do? Quoting from an ultraconservative right-wing talk show personality who wrote a piece for an ultraconservative right-wing web site? That's pathetic.
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I figured that it would end up being "can't attack the message so I'll attack the source".

Is that the best you can do on multiple points?
 
Nakosis

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
KenS said:
"Trump is abusing his power to declassify information and wielding it as a weapon in his ongoing war against the U.S. intelligence community."
'Unprecedented': Trump weaponizes FBI documents to sabotage Russia probe

this is now the talking point that Trump is weaponizing documents whereas the question also remains on whether the previous administration weaponized intelligence against Trump.

Whatever happened to "Let's find out the truth"?

Or is it that the truth will put people in hot water and therefore they are creating another false theory like collusion?

"In testimony, former FBI Director James Comey says that prior to signing a FISA application to obtain a warrant to conduct surveillance on Carter Page, a former adviser to President Trump’s 2016 campaign, Comey was aware that the dossier authored by former British spy Christopher Steele was financed by Democrats who opposed President Donald Trump.

Yet according to Democratic and Republican House Intelligence memos, that information was not specifically included in the FISA application, which in part relied on Steele’s work to obtain warrants to monitor Page. "
James Comey Admits He Knew Democrats Financed 'Pee' Dossier

Was there a reason why they didn't include it? Was there collusion here?

"Former Attorney General Loretta Lynch accused former FBI Director James Comey of mischaracterizing her statements under oath by repeatedly alleging she instructed him to call the Hillary Clinton email probe a “matter” instead of an “investigation.”

Transcripts: Loretta Lynch Accused James Comey of Lying Under Oath | People's Pundit Daily

For example, Comey and Brennan are at each others throats over who pushed the dossier.

James Comey Admits He Knew Democrats Financed 'Pee' Dossier

Is this where those who plotted begin to unravel themselves against each other for safety sake? Or is it a one time only mistake?

Personally, I want to know who is lying about weaponizing departments. It's time we really get to the bottom of this. I'm glad for those who were prosecuted in the investigation but It certainly looks like they were only looking at those in the Republican party and not giving a full report which should have included both parties. IMO.
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I suppose in the same way the Democrats are trying to weaponize Trump's tax returns by making them public knowledge.

Weaponize? I suppose it's time to recognize this is an actual war between Democrats and Republicans.
 
Kenny

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Nakosis said:
I suppose in the same way the Democrats are trying to weaponize Trump's tax returns by making them public knowledge.

Weaponize? I suppose it's time to recognize this is an actual war between Democrats and Republicans.
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I think there is some truth there.

Unfortunately, a House divided falls. Pun intended.
 
Twilight Hue

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Nakosis said:
I suppose it's time to recognize this is an actual war between Democrats and Republicans.
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There's not too many blue dog Democrats anymore.

The actual war is between Socialists who have all but taken over the Democratic Party.
 
ecco

ecco

Veteran Member
KenS said:
I figured that it would end up being "can't attack the message so I'll attack the source".

Is that the best you can do on multiple points?
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Does your propaganda article cite any sources or is it just the opinion of a right-wing ultraconservative? Do you know?

Or do you just blindly accept what he said because he is a right-wing ultraconservative writing for a rightwing ultraconservative web site?
 
Kenny

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
ecco said:
Does your propaganda article cite any sources or is it just the opinion of a right-wing ultraconservative? Do you know?

Or do you just blindly accept what he said because he is a right-wing ultraconservative writing for a rightwing ultraconservative web site?
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Have you bothered to check? Or did you just write if off b/c you just don't agree?
 
Kenny

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
ecco said:
Yeah. Just his opinion. Had you bothered to read it you would have known that.
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Yea... I get it. The quotes are good no matter who reported it - left, right or in between... it's the reader that read it like he/she wanted to read it.
 
ecco

ecco

Veteran Member
ecco said:
Yeah. Just his opinion. Had you bothered to read it you would have known that.
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KenS said:
Yea... I get it. The quotes are good no matter who reported it - left, right or in between... it's the reader that read it like he/she wanted to read it.
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No. That is not true and you know it. It does matter who writes an article. It does matter what the article clearly says.
 
Enoch07

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
KenS said:
Have you bothered to check? Or did you just write if off b/c you just don't agree?
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The mask is slipping. See below.

ecco said:
Uh, no. The war is between Trump and his sheeples (~35%) and the rest of us.
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Nice for the socialist to finally let the mask slip. Not surprising to me. Absolutely no different than when Hitler masked his fascism with the pretty face of socialism. The war you crave will be over swiftly and quietly soon enough.
 
Enoch07

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
ecco said:
Does your tagline: It's all a sick freaking joke, refer to your theism?
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It refers to your fine example of lefty courage by posting without tagging or using the quoting system to quote me!
 
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