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Islam's relationship with Sikhism

ronki23

Well-Known Member
One thing i'd like to ask Sikhs in particular, is whether it's fair to compare Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale and the Khalistan movement to Osama bin Laden/ Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi and ISIS.

The majority of Sikhs support Bhindranwale but the majority of Muslims condemn Al Qaeda and ISIS.

Bhindranwale never ordered the killing of innocent people. There was terrorism in Punjab in the 80s and 90s including the infamous stories of Sikhs stopping buses and shooting people without a turban but how can we be sure they weren't Pakistani Muslims in disguise? The only casualties confirmed to be caused by Sikhs was the 1985 Air India flight 182 bombing and that was 1 year after Bhindranwale was killed. Yet bin Laden funded the 1997 Luxor Massacre and the 1998 attack on American embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. He even attempted to get Bill Clinton killed when Clinton was still President and visited the Phillipines. Obviously 9/11 too.

Bhindranwale never wanted Khalistan; he said that "if Harmandir Sahib is attacked the foundation for Khalistan will be laid". The Indian government wanted to attack the Golden Temple since 1982; over a year before Bhindranwale ever took refuge in Akal Takht. Al Qaeda wants to cleanse the world of what it sees as sinful people and ISIS wants its own country.

A Sikh Gurdwara is open to all religions as is the langar. I have seen many Mosques that say "Muslims only"
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
I give here another writing on the "Chola-Sahib" or the "Long-Coat" or the "Holy Robe" of Baba Nanik Ji, it is on the chest of the same:

[1:1]
بِسۡمِ اللّٰہِ الرَّحۡمٰنِ الرَّحِیۡمِ﴿۱﴾
In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[[1:2]
اَلۡحَمۡدُ لِلّٰہِ رَبِّ الۡعٰلَمِیۡنَ ۙ﴿۲﴾
All praise belongs to Allah, Lord of all the worlds,
[[1:3]
الرَّحۡمٰنِ الرَّحِیۡمِ ۙ﴿۳﴾
The Gracious, the Merciful,
[[1:4]
مٰلِکِ یَوۡمِ الدِّیۡنِ ؕ﴿۴﴾
Master of the Day of Judgment.
[[1:5]
اِیَّاکَ نَعۡبُدُ وَ اِیَّاکَ نَسۡتَعِیۡنُ ؕ﴿۵﴾
Thee alone do we worship and Thee alone do we implore for help.
[[1:6]
اِہۡدِ نَا الصِّرَاطَ الۡمُسۡتَقِیۡمَ ۙ﴿۶﴾
Guide us in the right path —
[[1:7]
صِرَاطَ الَّذِیۡنَ اَنۡعَمۡتَ عَلَیۡہِمۡ ۬ۙ غَیۡرِ الۡمَغۡضُوۡبِ عَلَیۡہِمۡ وَ لَا الضَّآلِّیۡنَ ٪﴿۷﴾
The path of those on whom Thou hast bestowed Thy blessings, those who have not incurred Thy displeasure, and those who have not gone astray.
The Holy Quran - Chapter: 1: Al-Fatihah
It is the whole first Chapter of Quran named Fatihah.

It needs no further comments.

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I give here another writing on the "Chola-Sahib" or the "Long-Coat" or the "Holy Robe" of Baba Nanik Ji:
[112:2]
قُلۡ ہُوَ اللّٰہُ اَحَدٌ ۚ﴿۲﴾
Say, ‘He is Allah, the One;
[112:3]
اَللّٰہُ الصَّمَدُ ۚ﴿۳﴾
‘Allah, the Independent and Besought of all.
[[112:4]
لَمۡ یَلِدۡ ۬ۙ وَ لَمۡ یُوۡلَدۡ ۙ﴿۴﴾
‘He begets not, nor is He begotten;
[[112:5]
وَ لَمۡ یَکُنۡ لَّہٗ کُفُوًا اَحَدٌ ٪﴿۵﴾
‘And there is none like unto Him.’
The Holy Quran - Chapter: 112: Al-Ikhlas

Regards
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ajay0

Well-Known Member
I don't understand why parts of the Sri Guru Granth Sahib have been written by Muslims when:

1) Guru Arjun Dev was killed by Muslims for refusing to convert to Islam
2) Guru Tegh Bahadur saved Kashmiri pandits and was killed by Aurangzeb for this
3) Baba Deep Singh was killed in battle with Muslims after they attacked and desecrated Harmandir Sahib
4) Banda Singh Bahadur was executed by Muslims
5) Guru Gobind Singh's two sons were bricked in alive by Muslims and Guru Gobind Singh himself was stabbed by Muslims

But Guru Nanak's favourite disciple was a muslim called Mardana.

The land of the Golden Temple was donated by the Mughal emperor Akbar the Great, who was cordial and reverent to the Sikh Gurus and their teachings.

Guru Gobind Singh was also helped by two muslims while he was evading the Mughals at a particular situation.

Lets not forget that Hindu rajas had also fought against Guru Gobind Singh as they considered him to be a threat in the beginning.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
I give here another writing on the "Chola-Sahib" or the "Long-Coat" or the "Holy Robe" of Baba Nanik Ji:
[112:2]
قُلۡ ہُوَ اللّٰہُ اَحَدٌ ۚ﴿۲﴾
Say, ‘He is Allah, the One;
[112:3]
اَللّٰہُ الصَّمَدُ ۚ﴿۳﴾
‘Allah, the Independent and Besought of all.
[[112:4]
لَمۡ یَلِدۡ ۬ۙ وَ لَمۡ یُوۡلَدۡ ۙ﴿۴﴾
‘He begets not, nor is He begotten;
[[112:5]
وَ لَمۡ یَکُنۡ لَّہٗ کُفُوًا اَحَدٌ ٪﴿۵﴾
‘And there is none like unto Him.’
The Holy Quran - Chapter: 112: Al-Ikhlas

Regards
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chola-baba-nanak.png

I give here another writing on the "Chola-Sahib" or the "Long-Coat" or the "Holy Robe" of Baba Nanik Ji:

[110:1]
بِسۡمِ اللّٰہِ الرَّحۡمٰنِ الرَّحِیۡمِ﴿۱﴾
In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[110:2]
اِذَا جَآءَ نَصۡرُ اللّٰہِ وَ الۡفَتۡحُ ۙ﴿۲﴾
When the help of Allah comes, and the victory,
[110:3]
وَ رَاَیۡتَ النَّاسَ یَدۡخُلُوۡنَ فِیۡ دِیۡنِ اللّٰہِ اَفۡوَاجًا ۙ﴿۳﴾
And thou seest men entering the religion of Allah in troops,
[110:4]
فَسَبِّحۡ بِحَمۡدِ رَبِّکَ وَ اسۡتَغۡفِرۡہُ ؕؔ اِنَّہٗ کَانَ تَوَّابًا ٪﴿۴﴾
Glorify thy Lord, with His praise, and seek forgiveness of Him. Surely He is Oft-Returning with compassion.

The Holy Quran - Chapter: 110: An-Nasr

Regards
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ronki23

Well-Known Member
What is the difference between militant Islam and militant Sikhism ? Because many Gurdwara have photos of Satwant and Beant and most Sikhs hold Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale positively. However, if you went to a Mosque and saw photos of Osama bin Laden one would report it to the police (or MI5/NSA)
 
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