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Constituttional Trump fights

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
It makes perfect sense for the Dems to start more investigations.
It also makes perfect sense for Trump to resist them.
All this is proceeding exactly as we should expect.
The problem is that there is a limit to the resisting that a President can do. Can anyone find any case where executive privilege applied to subpoenas from Congress? That could be obstruction of justice even if he is "innocent".
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The problem is that there is a limit to the resisting that a President can do. Can anyone find any case where executive privilege applied to subpoenas from Congress? That could be obstruction of justice even if he is "innocent".
Tis all part of the game that Trump &
the Dems play against each other.
 
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Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Now take this into consideration, and add on that most media and half the country have a baseless hate for you and constantly misrepresent you and attack you.
Considering Trump misrepresents himself--often and frequently--he has himself to blame for that.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
Considering Trump misrepresents himself--often and frequently--he has himself to blame for that.

Now now even if Trump was a humble quiet man it would not make a difference.

Here's why.

He's trying to issue an emergency fund to help out with the crisis at the border. A $4.5 billion fund. $3.3 billion of that is for food/water/shelter/medical care for immigrants that need help after crossing the border. The rest is for shoring up border defenses, hiring more patrol agents etc. The Dems who normally support help for immigrants, are refusing to support the fund just because Trump issued it.

When people go back on their own principles just to despite someone. That is a sure sign of an irrational hate.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
Can I come to your place and look around to try to find dirt on you? Even if you have nothing to hide, am I free to go through your dirty laundry? How about your refrigerator? Can I have your tax returns? Please post your SSN.

Do you think that's an equitable comparison?
 

Riders

Well-Known Member
Now now even if Trump was a humble quiet man it would not make a difference.

Here's why.

He's trying to issue an emergency fund to help out with the crisis at the border. A $4.5 billion fund. $3.3 billion of that is for food/water/shelter/medical care for immigrants that need help after crossing the border. The rest is for shoring up border defenses, hiring more patrol agents etc. The Dems who normally support help for immigrants, are refusing to support the fund just because Trump issued it.

When people go back on their own principles just to despite someone. That is a sure sign of an irrational hate.

Why is Trump lying then then telling us he wants money to build the wall with? He lied to the Dems?
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
Why is Trump lying then then telling us he wants money to build the wall with? He lied to the Dems?

This emergency fund is totally separate from the wall.

It can't be used to build the wall.
 
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Stanyon

WWMRD?
HAHAHA very funny except that Trump is screaming they are ruining his life on twitter, Apparently Trump disagrees. If theres no threat of Trump being punished why is he blocking 20 investigations instead of laughing at it like you are?Hes throwing afit too, sorry your not persuasive.

He is trolling those who are obsessed with his each and every tweet.

Trump, you glorious B*****d, do that voodoo that you do so well!
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
Concept is the same.

So there's a long history of people putting their SSN numbers up on the net, those same people promised they would but have since renegged, and those same people both lead the country and make claims their tax returns would potentially prove or disprove?

Really??
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
He is trolling those who are obsessed with his each and every tweet.

Trump, you glorious B*****d, do that voodoo that you do so well!

I agree with this actually.

If I had nothing to hide and someone still demanded more proof after I offered 2 million documents, and countless hours of my staff/family in inteviews.

I would resist as much as I could just to troll the nubs in Congress. In the end they come out looking like the biggest fools.

I would totally do it.
 

Stanyon

WWMRD?
I agree with this actually.

If I had nothing to hide and someone still demanded more proof after I offered 2 million documents, and countless hours of my staff/family in inteviews.

I would resist as much as I could just to troll the nubs in Congress. In the end they come out looking like the biggest fools.

I would totally do it.

I consider the way much of the media has been reacting over the last few years as nothing more than a cartoon version of an auto-de-fe' and not a very good one.
 

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
So there's a long history of people putting their SSN numbers up on the net, those same people promised they would but have since renegged, and those same people both lead the country and make claims their tax returns would potentially prove or disprove?

Really??
You don’t get it because you hate Trump.
 

james dixon

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I believe trump believes the only sure way to stay in office in 2020 is for the USA to be at war since no President has ever lost an election during war time.

Believe me, if Trump believes he can stay in office if we are at war, he will get us in a war; does Iran come to mind?

:)-
 

Mister Emu

Emu Extraordinaire
Staff member
Premium Member
Can anyone find any case where executive privilege applied to subpoenas from Congress?
That's what executive privilege is, a declaration that some subpoena concerns what Congress has no authority to demand. When Obama used it to protect Eric Holder, there was a subpoena that Obama declared void for that it was regarding a protected executive matter.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
I believe trump believes the only sure way to stay in office in 2020 is for the USA to be at war since no President has ever lost an election during war time.

Believe me, if Trump believes he can stay in office if we are at war, he will get us in a war; does Iran come to mind?

:)-

He don't need a war with this economy.

Matter of fact war would only hurt the economy. So war would hurt him not help him.
 
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