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Science - Who Needs It

nPeace

Veteran Member
The death toll before modern science developed modern treatments for malaria. Death toll is still high because of the lack of modern treatment; ~435,000 in 2017, a drop since 2010, which is estimated by 1,2 million. The numbers reflect the access to modern medical treatment. Global instability in many countries restricted the access of modern treatment. In 1980 the death toll was 995,000, and increased with the limited access of modern medical treatment.

See:Global malaria mortality between 1980 and 2010: a systematic analysis

See: US Malaria Deaths, 1870

US Malaria Deaths, 1870
By Lauren Urban US Malaria Deaths, 1870 While malaria still kills over 1 million people each year, most of those deaths occur in sub-Saharan Africa—the United States has been free of the disease since 1951. In the 19th century, however, malaria was extremely common within the United States, with over 1 million cases reported during the Civil War alone. The map below depicts deaths from malaria in 1870—10 years before the malaria parasite.

Due to immigration and other sources of malaria musquitos the death toll in the USA in recent years we are not free of the disease, but the death toll remains very low.



Many developed countries like the USA have reduced the death toll due to malaria to minimal levels. down from 70 deaths per 1000 in the South and southern midwest of the USA

This reference gives the timeline of malaria dn medical treatment history: Timeline of malaria - Wikipedia

The conclusion is clear and specific the more available medical technology, and other modern technologies that are available based on science the lower the incidence of malaria and the lower the death toll.
Thousands of years is from the 1800s?
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
It's actually pointless talking with you madam. I cannot make you understand anything. So you can have the final say, after this.


No. If you understood the OP, you would not be saying this.




You understand nothing. :)

The cognitive dissonance is strong in you. Why do you expect other people to de-educate themselves to your level.

The facts and information have been presented, in reply you offered mockery and insult. A sure sign that you cannot justify your claims.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
It's actually pointless talking with you madam. I cannot make you understand anything. So you can have the final say, after this.


No. If you understood the OP, you would not be saying this.




You understand nothing. :)
Um, isn't your job as the thread creator to help other people understand your point of view, rather than just brushing them off?:shrug:
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Somehow science is not necessary for survival?
I needed it for my survival was my reply.

For primitive paleolithic human, no science was not necessary. Even primitive Stone Age tribes today do not need science to survive, but unfortunately we have become a fragile over populated high tech and science civilization, and without science the house of cards may collapse.
 

sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
For primitive paleolithic human, no science was not necessary. Even primitive Stone Age tribes today do not need science to survive, but unfortunately we have become a fragile over populated high tech and science civilization, and without science the house of cards may collapse.
In ancient times those who needed science for their survival died because it did not exist. The rest did...obviously.
 

nPeace

Veteran Member
Um, isn't your job as the thread creator to help other people understand your point of view, rather than just brushing them off?:shrug:
Would that require going into the person's brain and rewiring it? No. That's not my job.
Like I mentioned before, the OP is not hard to understand in the right context, if one reads it without a particular mindset.
A number of persons both on my side and against my views, have commented with an understanding of the point the OP is making.
Before you start, please don't madam... unless you tell me what you understand from the OP.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
While I completely agree. Science is also responsible for millions of deaths.
Not science, but the misuse of technology, which has been a product of science since and before science was science. Humans have killed each other since humans were human, and in the beginning without science and technology. They simply killed each other with rocks and sticks.

'I do not know with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones'. Albert Einstein
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Not science, but the misuse of technology, which has been a product of science since and before science was science. Humans have killed each other since humans were human, and in the beginning without science and technology/ They simply killed each other with rocks and sticks.

Yes science. Science is what brought that technology. Science is great but misused its awful.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Yes science. Science is what brought that technology. Science is great but misused its awful.

No, not science, it is humans. I do not know with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. Albert Einstein
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Not science, but the misuse of technology, which has been a product of science since and before science was science. Humans have killed each other since humans were human, and in the beginning without science and technology. They simply killed each other with rocks and sticks.

'I do not know with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones'. Albert Einstein

Thinking of using sticks and rocks to use as protection and weapons was technology at its earliest stage.
 
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