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Christian denominations vs JW "New Light", Unity and Truth

savagewind

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Psalm 139:7-12 ESV /
Where shall I go from your Spirit? Or where shall I flee from your presence? If I ascend to heaven, you are there! If I make my bed in Sheol, you are there! If I take the wings of the morning and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea, even there your hand shall lead me, and your right hand shall hold me.
 

savagewind

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@Vee Do you believe as many Jehovah's Witnesses believe that a person must agree with the Jehovah's Witnesses' ideas about "pure worship" @Hockeycowboy to know Jehovah and to do the will of God like Jesus?

Jeremiah 23:24 “Can any man hide in a concealed place where I cannot see him?”+ declares Jehovah.“Do I not fill the heavens and the earth?”+ declares Jehovah.
 

savagewind

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@Hockeycowboy @Deeje the holy people of old who knew Jehovah heard from Jehovah and caused the Holy Scriptures to be written for us were not members of a like-minded group. Now you say that to know Jehovah and to do the will of God a person must be in a group. Your group.
 

savagewind

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Some of these ex-JW's would've had a hard time living and coping in ancient Israel. The Israelites had many issues / problems, but as a whole, they were still Jehovah's people. There was nowhere else to go for pure worship.
Israel was for God's LAW. The law was a "tutor" which for some, has led to Christ. And, believe me!. The governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses isn't Christ.
Galatians 3:24 So the Law became our guardian*leading to Christ,+ so that we might be declared righteous through faith.+

All souls belong to Jehovah. So, all people are Jehovah's people. But, not all people are for Jehovah. You keep saying that a person who is free of your organization cannot be for Jehovah. You are wrong.

Galatians 5:1 It is for freedom that Christ has set us free.

Israel < the law < Christ
 

Hockeycowboy

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What Does the Bible Say About God Is Everywhere?

Do you call yourself a Bible believer and you do not know that?
What do you think? Do you think I "do not know"?

You forget....
Hebrews 10:23-25, "Incite one another to love and fine works....Do not forsake the gathering of yourselves together."

Are you encouraging worshippers of Jehovah to 'incite to love and fine works'? No ...you talk about & belittle your brothers, behind a computer screen.

You are more interested in your own "selfish desires": Proverbs 18:1, "One isolating himself is seeking his own selfish desires."

Each one must 'give an accounting'.

(For someone who claimed I 'bring them down to earth', you sure try to refute me! When you feel the need to be brought down.....)
 

savagewind

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What do you think? Do you think I "do not know"?

You forget....
Hebrews 10:23-25, "Incite one another to love and fine works....Do not forsake the gathering of yourselves together."

Are you encouraging worshippers of Jehovah to 'incite to love and fine works'? No ...you talk about & belittle your brothers, behind a computer screen.

You are more interested in your own "selfish desires": Proverbs 18:1, "One isolating himself is seeking his own selfish desires."

Each one must 'give an accounting'.

(For someone who claimed I 'bring them down to earth', you sure try to refute me! When you feel the need to be brought down.....)
I have asked to give just one example of me "belittling my brothers". I disagree with much of your doctrine. Is that what you mean?
 

savagewind

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I shall tell you what is funny. Sometimes your doctrine changes. I disagree with some of your present doctrines. Do you call that belittling you? @Hockeycowboy
 

savagewind

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What do you think? Do you think I "do not know"?
You do not know that Jehovah does not dwell in manmade temples or manmade doctrines. I have not forsaken gathering together. How do you know I won't seek out the true believers in the future and gather with them? You don't!
 

savagewind

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What do you think? Do you think I "do not know"?

You forget....
Hebrews 10:23-25, "Incite one another to love and fine works....Do not forsake the gathering of yourselves together."

Are you encouraging worshippers of Jehovah to 'incite to love and fine works'? No ...you talk about & belittle your brothers, behind a computer screen.

You are more interested in your own "selfish desires": Proverbs 18:1, "One isolating himself is seeking his own selfish desires."

Each one must 'give an accounting'.

(For someone who claimed I 'bring them down to earth', you sure try to refute me! When you feel the need to be brought down.....)
I don't actually belittle anyone but you say I do like it is the wrong thing to do which it is, imho. But, your sister belittles us often. Is it not wrong for her to do it?
 

savagewind

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@Hockeycowboy Question: Can you show us one instance where @savagewind has belittled anyone?

Question: If belittlement is wrong have you warned @Deeje about it?

Question: Does Jehovah dwell in doctrine?

Question: Does Jehovah exist outside of the Christain Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses?

Question: Is it my difference of opinion that you call "belittling"?

Question: If so, then by your difference of opinion you belittle the whole world. Right?
 

savagewind

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I am very disappointed. So much so that I can feel it.

So, I will say what I am thinking about the meaning of the fact that I have been accused of belittling anyone.

Maybe my alternate interpretations hit a nerve in the Jehovah's Witnesses and make them feel for a half-second that their organizers are not really on the ball like they are projecting they are. That would be a false image which is just one way a person lies. And we know that liars are not inheritors of The Kingdon of God.

Is that it?

Do you cause doubt?
 

savagewind

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But, @Hockeycowboy I want not to have the last word. If you will tell me in what way I belittle anyone (so that maybe I can stop doing it!) I will not make a response to it. Please.
 

sooda

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"Watchtower studies"

I am not a Christian. I am Ahmadiyya peaceful Muslim. I attended JW Church many times. I observed that they do not teach Bible in their services but they teach Watch-Tower magazine even if it contradicted with the Bible. I pointed out that to the people and they were upset with this observation of mine. Now one confirms it to me.

Regards

Your beliefs are very interesting..

Jesus in India | Tomb of Jesus | Where Did Jesus Die | Jesus in Islam - Al Islam Online
 

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
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But, @Hockeycowboy I want not to have the last word. If you will tell me in what way I belittle anyone (so that maybe I can stop doing it!) I will not make a response to it. Please.
The GB are anointed brothers (just like other anointed ones), but they are still brothers. Given a heavy responsibility.
You talk about them all the time! (Do you think they are making money off of JW's? They have no mansions or Cadillacs.)

Take care of yourself.
 
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