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Why Prostitution Should be Legal

Cooky

Veteran Member
Until a few hundred years ago, the majority of most nations once agreed that slavery was an acceptable practice. So, you see, at any given time, the laws of a society might include those that are immoral and unjust. The laws making prostitution a criminal offense is an example of an unjust law which needs to be abandoned just as we abandoned legal slavery and other unjust laws..

I'll be happy to fight for injustice then. :)

...It's filthy and I hate it.
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
Basically, since I don't like it, nobody else should either... And if there's enough people like me, we will win.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
Your objections to prostitution have been very weak so far. Nothing that justifies the current laws. Perhaps you can come up with something stronger than emotional arguments.
It's an emotional problem. If people saw sexual intercourse for pay differently the solution would be different. But they don't. They see it as a form of personal subjugation and abuse because it is physically invasive and it is not voluntary. It is coerced. And that degrades and dehumanizes everyone involved. The only possible argument for legalizing it would be for the sake of individual freedom of choice. But the fact that consent has to be coerced pretty much eliminates that justification. So now all you have left as your argument is your own indifference. You claim there are no victims because no one is "innocent", and the damage is invisible and minimal (to you). But a pedophile claims the same thing to justify having coerced sex with a child.

All you really have to stand on is that you don't think people are victimized by participating in prostitution. But try getting a job with that on your resume. Try renting an apartment. Try finding a spouse or raising a child. When was the last time you dated a prostitute? The damage from participating in prostitution is deep and far-reaching. And that's just the prostitute. Lets consider the 'Johns'. The psychological issues of having to pay people to pretend to be intimate with you, and with thinking their bodies and their sincerity are a commodity that you can take away from them for a price.
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
It's an emotional problem. If people saw sexual intercourse for pay differently the solution would be different. But they don't. They see it as a form of personal subjugation and abuse because it is physically invasive and it is not voluntary. It is coerced. And that degrades and dehumanizes everyone involved. The only possible argument for legalizing it would be for the sake of individual freedom of choice. But the fact that consent has to be coerced pretty much eliminates that justification. So now all you have left as your argument is your own indifference. You claim there are no victims because no one is "innocent", and the damage is invisible and minimal (to you). But a pedophile claims the same thing to justify having coerced sex with a child.

All you really have to stand on is that you don't think people are victimized by participating in prostitution. But try getting a job with that on your resume. Try renting an apartment. Try finding a spouse or raising a child. When was the last time you dated a prostitute? The damage from participating in prostitution is deep and far-reaching. And that's just the prostitute. Lets consider the 'Johns'. The psychological issues of having to pay people to pretend to be intimate with you, and with thinking their bodies and their sincerity are a commodity that you can take away from them for a price.

What are you calling coercion ?
 

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Pretty sure statistics show an increase in human trafficking where prostitution is LEGAL. Go figure.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
It's an emotional problem. If people saw sexual intercourse for pay differently the solution would be different. But they don't. They see it as a form of personal subjugation and abuse because it is physically invasive and it is not voluntary. It is coerced. And that degrades and dehumanizes everyone involved. The only possible argument for legalizing it would be for the sake of individual freedom of choice. But the fact that consent has to be coerced pretty much eliminates that justification. So now all you have left as your argument is your own indifference. You claim there are no victims because no one is "innocent", and the damage is invisible and minimal (to you). But a pedophile claims the same thing to justify having coerced sex with a child.

All you really have to stand on is that you don't think people are victimized by participating in prostitution. But try getting a job with that on your resume. Try renting an apartment. Try finding a spouse or raising a child. When was the last time you dated a prostitute? The damage from participating in prostitution is deep and far-reaching. And that's just the prostitute. Lets consider the 'Johns'. The psychological issues of having to pay people to pretend to be intimate with you, and with thinking their bodies and their sincerity are a commodity that you can take away from them for a price.
Some see it that way. Others have gotten over the unreasonable taboos inflicted on them by society.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Pretty sure statistics show an increase in human trafficking where prostitution is LEGAL. Go figure.

Do you have a source for that? In the U.S. trafficking tends to go away when investigated. Do you remember the bust that caught Kraft? The prosecutor claimed it was a major victory against trafficking at the time. Later, he admitted that they could not find any evidence for trafficking. Another poster posted a FAUX News link that told of 123 children rescued from trafficking. His own source had a link that further explained of those 123 there were only3 possible cases of trafficking among the 123. Police like to shout that term when they make a bust, but they do not seem to hold water.
 

Dan From Smithville

What's up Doc?
Staff member
Premium Member
You're trying to legitimize prostitution by calling it just another "job", and I'm not going to waste any more time on this nonsense.
I am doing no such thing. I am asking a question for clarification. You wasted my time on this nonsense.
 

Dan From Smithville

What's up Doc?
Staff member
Premium Member
The primary purpose of law in a civilized society is to protect it's citizens from each other, and hopefully to do so equitably. This isn't about who is the victim, it's about victimization in general. If a woman wants to offer the use of her body for someone else's sexual pleasure she can do so at any time. If she requires money to do so, then the whole idea of "consent" gets poisoned, and at best it becomes coerced consent. Which becomes a very slippery slope when it comes to the justification of abuse. Purchasing another human being's body for one's own sexual gratification requires monetary coercion because it is an otherwise unacceptable proposition. And that's how it becomes a form of humiliation when it happens, and becomes psychologically damaging, and dehumanizing for all involved.

And that's why I think civil societies should employ their laws to prevent legitimizing it.
So if I tell a guy, I will dig a ditch for him, that is not victimizing me. If I offer to do it shirtless, I am still not a victim. But if I offer to dig a ditch for him, but it will cost $200 for an hour, $250 without the shirt and $300 and the wife can watch, I am a victim, because I am being coerced by money? I am not saying that I do not buy your argument or parts of it, but it does lead to some obvious comparisons.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Prostitution should be legal because you may really need money for something important, and I may really need a blowjob. An obvious commercial transaction from which everyone goes home satisfied.
 

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Do you have a source for that? In the U.S. trafficking tends to go away when investigated. Do you remember the bust that caught Kraft? The prosecutor claimed it was a major victory against trafficking at the time. Later, he admitted that they could not find any evidence for trafficking. Another poster posted a FAUX News link that told of 123 children rescued from trafficking. His own source had a link that further explained of those 123 there were only3 possible cases of trafficking among the 123. Police like to shout that term when they make a bust, but they do not seem to hold water.
How about Harvard?

https://orgs.law.harvard.edu/lids/2014/06/12/does-legalized-prostitution-increase-human-trafficking/
 

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Do you have a source for that? In the U.S. trafficking tends to go away when investigated. Do you remember the bust that caught Kraft? The prosecutor claimed it was a major victory against trafficking at the time. Later, he admitted that they could not find any evidence for trafficking. Another poster posted a FAUX News link that told of 123 children rescued from trafficking. His own source had a link that further explained of those 123 there were only3 possible cases of trafficking among the 123. Police like to shout that term when they make a bust, but they do not seem to hold water.
Or Science Direct?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0305750X12001453
 

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Do you have a source for that? In the U.S. trafficking tends to go away when investigated. Do you remember the bust that caught Kraft? The prosecutor claimed it was a major victory against trafficking at the time. Later, he admitted that they could not find any evidence for trafficking. Another poster posted a FAUX News link that told of 123 children rescued from trafficking. His own source had a link that further explained of those 123 there were only3 possible cases of trafficking among the 123. Police like to shout that term when they make a bust, but they do not seem to hold water.
Or The NY Times:

Legalizing Prostitution Leads to More Trafficking - NYTimes.com
 
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