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Do Dharmic religions get along better than Abrahamics?

ronki23

Well-Known Member
I wonder if Dharmic religions get along better; on one hand you have Nepalese people saying they're both Hindu and Buddhist and Buddhist temple are next to Hindu temples.
Even in Punjab the first born son is a Sikh and 1 in 4 or 1 in 5 Gurdwara visitors are Hindu.


On the other hand the situation in Punjab in the 80s pitted Hindus and Sikhs against one another and 5,000 Sikhs we're murdered in October 1984. Many British Sikh groups are anti India.

In Sri Lanka the Buddhists were killing Hindus.

India used to be Buddhist (Ashoka) and Thailand, Laos and Cambodia used to be Hindu.

I'm confused
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
People are tribal. We always find some excuse for a good squabble. If nothing obvious presents itself we'll invent something. Nevertheless, I think the proselytizing, Abrahamic religions tend to be more contentious. The Dharmic crowd doesn't really care what you believe -- many paths up the same mountain and all.
 

ManSinha

Well-Known Member
I have long held that the British Sikhs who are "anti-India" are first rate cowards. They yell and scream from afar but ask them if they will go back to an independent "whatever-istan" and suddenly the hemming and hawing starts. Ask them if they can quote from the SGGS where the Guru asked for an independent homeland - and they get angry for "raising irrelevant issues". Ask them who Guru Tegh Bahadur sacrificed for - and of course they have no answer. Ask any of the Sikhs in Bombay or any other large metro area in India whether they want an independent state and the answer is an unequivocal No. It is the lure of power that drives some of this behavior in my opinion. The religious divides per se - are few. None of the Sikhs I have run into discount or disrespect Ram / Krishna / Hanuman / Buddha and the Sikh Gurus and teachings are looked upon with reverence even outside the broader group of Sahajdhari (clean shaven) Sikhs.
 

Glaurung

Denizen of Niflheim
The Dharmic crowd doesn't really care what you believe -- many paths up the same mountain and all.
Historically, so long as you recognized Brahmin superiority and the divine origin of the Vedas. To my knowledge Buddhism and Jainism were considered heresies due to just that rejection.

I can also imagine cynical motives for claiming the Buddha as an avatar of Vishnu.
 
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LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Some interesting points above. All the same, when compared with the Abrahamics, sure, the Dharmic faiths are overall much better accepting of each other.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
It's the same, people get along no better or worse than any other religion out there.

I find it's a good thing. Lets me know I'm on track.
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I wonder if Dharmic religions get along better; on one hand you have Nepalese people saying they're both Hindu and Buddhist and Buddhist temple are next to Hindu temples.
Even in Punjab the first born son is a Sikh and 1 in 4 or 1 in 5 Gurdwara visitors are Hindu.


On the other hand the situation in Punjab in the 80s pitted Hindus and Sikhs against one another and 5,000 Sikhs we're murdered in October 1984. Many British Sikh groups are anti India.

In Sri Lanka the Buddhists were killing Hindus.

India used to be Buddhist (Ashoka) and Thailand, Laos and Cambodia used to be Hindu.

I'm confused

Personally it would be the choice of each person and in that regard, I see there would be the same statistics across most Faiths. The fundamentalists always seem to stand out in a crowd. Those that wish to embrace a wider part of humanity, usually do not rock the boat for those that do not.

Regards Tony
 

Firemorphic

Activist Membrane
It's the same, people get along no better or worse than any other religion out there.

I find it's a good thing. Lets me know I'm on track.

You're the best post in this thread I think, generally there is no differentiation. However when someone decides to do something, obviously people are more likely to blame someone's religion if they're Abrahamic than if they're Dharmic for some strange reason.

Yep, people vary depending on where you are, who they are, what they practice, why they practice, what they're interested in. For the record though, I have met a lot of intolerant Buddhists and Hindus at various points, I've also met friendly ones as well.

Dharma exists in Abrahamism and Abrahamism exists in Dharmic traditions, there is a line in which they've both crossed each other many many times historically (irregardless of that they start from the polar opposite point of reference). I think it's just a matter of recognizing the connections between the mystical, philosophical and ethical and not bothering so much about the Exoteric layers of each other's traditions.
I think a major flaw in Pluralism (or Universalism) is that forced sense of everyone needing to agree on the Exoteric layers. The Exoteric doesn't need to be agreed on at all, but the Esoteric holds many, many useful connections.

Most of my comment wasn't really directed at you (mainly the first paragraph) but there are traditions in our (Islam) Sufi Orders of Humor and minimalist based approaches to philosophical teaching akin to much of the kinds of stuff I've read from studying Zen. I love it personally. :D
 
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Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I wonder if Dharmic religions get along better; on one hand you have Nepalese people saying they're both Hindu and Buddhist and Buddhist temple are next to Hindu temples.
Even in Punjab the first born son is a Sikh and 1 in 4 or 1 in 5 Gurdwara visitors are Hindu.


On the other hand the situation in Punjab in the 80s pitted Hindus and Sikhs against one another and 5,000 Sikhs we're murdered in October 1984. Many British Sikh groups are anti India.

In Sri Lanka the Buddhists were killing Hindus.

India used to be Buddhist (Ashoka) and Thailand, Laos and Cambodia used to be Hindu.

I'm confused
I think Dharmic religions get along similar to Abrahamic religions. but it is the people who do not always get along so well. Remember Dhamma or abrahamic teaching does not have a problem with each others, it is the ego in each person who is the problem, thinking My religion is better then your religion, then the trouble starts
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
I think in general the dharmic faiths get along better, but there are exceptions. If you compare the conflict rate in the subcontinent of India versus the conflict rate in the equivalent area of the roughly determined 'Middle East', the Middle East is much higher.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
I think Dharmic religions get along similar to Abrahamic religions. but it is the people who do not always get along so well. Remember Dhamma or abrahamic teaching does not have a problem with each others, it is the ego in each person who is the problem, thinking My religion is better then your religion, then the trouble starts
If only.

I think that you are idealizing things just a bit too much here, @Amanaki

Abrahamic teaching does, in fact, have a problem with each other. There are very specific passages, and there are literal wars supported by those. People often transcend their own scripture and teaching, but that does not make those non-existent.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
If only.

I think that you are idealizing things just a bit too much here, @Amanaki

Abrahamic teaching does, in fact, have a problem with each other. There are very specific passages, and there are literal wars supported by those. People often transcend their own scripture and teaching, but that does not make those non-existent.
So not a problem with the teaching. But with the followers. If you misunderstand the teaching, it is not the teachings fault, or is it?
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
So not a problem with the teaching. But with the followers. If you misunderstand the teaching, it is not the teachings fault, or is it?
No, sorry. It is indeed a problem with the teaching, which the followers very often fix in a personal scale despite their own doctrine telling them otherwise.

By disobeying or even, yes, misunderstanding the teaching, they improve it or at least its reputation. It is part of the package in the Abrahamics, or at least their mainstream tendencies.

It also happens among Dharmi and others, of course. But it is far better integrated outside the Abrahamics, generally.
 

ronki23

Well-Known Member
In Afghanistan Hindus and Sikhs worship together

Sikhs-Pic-310x200.jpg


Dubai- Hindu Mandir and Sikh Gurdwara in same building


Nepal- shared Temples

 
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