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Anti-Racism, Privilege and Non-Racism

Audie

Veteran Member
I'm not sure how accurate they are, although it's probably more a matter of individual traits. But if there is any accuracy at all to them, it may be more due to cultural conditioning and upbringing than anything biological or genetic.

As for stereotypes, at least in America, people have assumed a lot of things about the Japanese - along with other nationalities and races.

A lot of it is probably so much ignorant BS - like how some say that black people love watermelon and ribs. But a lot of white people love watermelon and ribs. I never could quite understand those kinds of stereotypes, as they never made much sense.

I do agree that everyone should be seen as an indibidual,
and evaluated based on individual merits, characteristics.

There is a strong countercurrent to this in the USA.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Isnt that pretty much the histoty and culture of every
countty?
Nobody inhabits a land not taken by force from
those who came before, and ruled by force for
the benefit of those in control.

Well, yes, this is true. However, there is a problem in that empires built up through force have to maintain themselves through force. That's the trap that the U.S. finds itself in right now. We've built up on blood and conquest - not just on this continent, but it's practically a world-wide phenomenon with the U.S. military scattered all over the planet.

Yet we also want to pass ourselves off as this "white knight" who only wants to feed the starving billions, save women and children from tyrants, etc. It's all about spreading "freedom" around the world, or so we want everyone to think.

We want everyone to think that America is this paragon of virtue which holds the moral high ground above the rest of the world. We want the oppressed peoples (both in America and around the world) to think that we've all reformed and that we're all just a bunch of egalitarian "nice guys," although the opposition to this philosophy think that this is a sign that Americans have grown soft and weak. They think that we need to toughen up and be strong - just as we were under Andrew Jackson.

And then there are those on the other side of the spectrum which are starting to grow impatient with the well-meaning yet mealy-mouthed moderate liberals whom are also viewed as too soft and weak by those further to the left. That's where all this dreaded "socialism" is coming from.

As a result, those at both ends of the spectrum are getting stronger, while those in the middle are getting weaker.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Well, yes, this is true. However, there is a problem in that empires built up through force have to maintain themselves through force. That's the trap that the U.S. finds itself in right now. We've built up on blood and conquest - not just on this continent, but it's practically a world-wide phenomenon with the U.S. military scattered all over the planet.

Yet we also want to pass ourselves off as this "white knight" who only wants to feed the starving billions, save women and children from tyrants, etc. It's all about spreading "freedom" around the world, or so we want everyone to think.

We want everyone to think that America is this paragon of virtue which holds the moral high ground above the rest of the world. We want the oppressed peoples (both in America and around the world) to think that we've all reformed and that we're all just a bunch of egalitarian "nice guys," although the opposition to this philosophy think that this is a sign that Americans have grown soft and weak. They think that we need to toughen up and be strong - just as we were under Andrew Jackson.

And then there are those on the other side of the spectrum which are starting to grow impatient with the well-meaning yet mealy-mouthed moderate liberals whom are also viewed as too soft and weak by those further to the left. That's where all this dreaded "socialism" is coming from.

As a result, those at both ends of the spectrum are getting stronger, while those in the middle are getting weaker.

The USA sits astride world trade routes with virtually
infinite power and resources. There is whitewash,
there are true believers, but it is about power wealth
and control. The world revolves around the US,
economically and culturally. Just a fact.

Nobody cares to just walk away from such.

I personally think the world is better for it being
so, while understanding full well that there is
fear and resentment, inequity, etc.

As for empires and force, of course. But I was
not referring to empires, but every nation on earth.
Territory seized by force from prior inhabitants,
for reasons of wealth and expansion.

The USA has its own story, but so does every other who
did the same, with such local variations as there were.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
Is she blaming? Or recognizing a lack of attention to certain people?
Don't ask me. I have no idea what she really meant, and don't think that she did.

One reason why an individual in one group might ignore the problems from an individual in another group is that there are so many problems out there that one has to filter out some voices and attend to others. We naturally choose what seems the most relevant or just what we most can relate to. But sometimes without considering fully the severity of the issues those voices we choose to filter out represent we de-legitimize the shared values that are being threatened. And if we see that voice not as a <insert other group here> voice but instead of a <insert shared value violated> voice, then we might get somewhere.
OK........... so many Christian Churches need to start rethinking ideas about sexual choice, freedom, determination etc?

We are all members of a group and must take some level of responsibility for that group even if we never "signed up" for that.
Well..... you know........ as a Christian you will therefore need to start calling for more support for sexual and esp female freedom of choice?

I agree that a white person shouldn't have to prove they are not racist. But they should be willing to recognize the value of understanding how "color" has played and continues to play a prominent role in society in significant sometimes life-ending ways for those in the minority of power and how we must be on-guard, all of us, to avoid the development of new means for defining and discriminating against others.
What's all this about 'white'?
In my lifetime I have heard about, read about and seen the most shocking reports of mass murders, genocides, government corruptions, greed and more, and NO, absolutely NO skin colour or race was free of condemnation.

It's time for all Human Beings to step up for HUMAN RIGHTS and HUMAN JUSTICE........ everywhere.
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
Which is pure nonsense due to the invitation.

No, because last time I checked Trayvon Martin's mother was never invited to speak out at a hearing against white supremacy. Last time I checked, members of James Byrd Jr. family were not invited to speak to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on the dangers of white supremacy. Last time I checked, family members of Maurice Stallard and Vickie Lee Jones were not invited to speak out against the cancer of white supremacy. I don't think its nonsense, it makes sense.

Linda Sarsour has had plenty of platforms. You are not aware or not looking.

Really? You listed one person? Okay, who else has had a global platform speaking out against the Palestinian-Arab Muslim plight? You have many Muslim women who have experienced hate crimes daily and very rare do you see them at hearings speaking out against white supremacy and its dangers.

Babble as she was invited.

Being invited does not disregard privilege.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
No, because last time I checked Trayvon Martin's mother was never invited to speak out at a hearing against white supremacy.

He wasn't killed by a White Supremacist. More so the court case shows Martin was in the wrong.

Last time I checked, members of James Byrd Jr. family were not invited to speak to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on the dangers of white supremacy.


Blame AOC then.

Last time I checked, family members of Maurice Stallard and Vickie Lee Jones were not invited to speak out against the cancer of white supremacy. I don't think its nonsense, it makes sense.

Blame virtue signalling Dems then.



Really? You listed one person?

All I needed was one.

Okay, who else has had a global platform speaking out against the Palestinian-Arab Muslim plight?

A specific member of Congress.

You have many Muslim women who have experienced hate crimes daily and very rare do you see them at hearings speaking out against white supremacy and its dangers.

As typically the attacks are due to religious bias not racism. Also a members of Congress can easily invite people. They don't. Again blame Dems.



Being invited does not disregard privilege.

Wrong. It shows her claim to be a farce.
 
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