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Christians And Sodomy

tosca1

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So, my question is: Why would god put such an abundance of pleasure-producing nerve endings in the anus unless he intended them to be stimulated, and in turn provide sexual gratification?


I don't necessarily expect a good scientific or theological answer, but would like the reasonable Christian here to evaluate their religion's position on it, particularly in light gay anal sex. If god thinks gay anal sex is sinful, why put all these pleasurable nerve endings in the male anus? Likewise, putting them in a female anus would seem to invite male-female anal sex.

Seems to me something in Christian theology has gone very much awry. My suspicion is that it's a prejudice that arose out of simple revulsion among heterosexuals toward anal sex .

Your thoughts.

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Sodomy is just one among many.

Why create carnal sin to be so deliciously tempting?
Why is sexual temptation so powerful?
Why did God not create us with dulled desire for sex that is wrong?

Perhaps, because of free will.

Everyday of our lives, till the day we die - we will always face our own inner battles - making the choice between good and evil, between right and wrong.
 
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Dan From Smithville

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Sodomy is just one among many.

Why create carnal sin to be so deliciously tempting?
Why is sexual temptation so powerful?
Why did God not create us with dulled desire for sex that is wrong?

Perhaps, because of free will.

Everyday of our lives, till the day we die - we will always face our own inner battles - making the choice between good and evil, between right and wrong.
So you are claiming sex is wrong and evil?
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
Sodomy is just one among many.
"One among many" what?

Why create carnal sin to be so deliciously tempting?

Because it's part of the evil god continually creates.

Isaiah 45:7
7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.​

Why is sexual temptation so powerful?
Evidently that's the way god wants it. :shrug:

Why did God not create us with dulled desire for sex that is wrong?
Because it's what sadists do: cause unhappiness, pain, and suffering.. .

Perhaps, because of free will.
No such thing.

Everyday of our lives, till the day we die - we will always face our own inner battles - making the choice between good and evil, between right and wrong.
Which no doubt delights your god, because if it didn't, as a loving god he'd get rid of them.

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MJFlores

Well-Known Member
My Question.
So, my question is: Why would god put such an abundance of pleasure-producing nerve endings in the anus unless he intended them to be stimulated, and in turn provide sexual gratification?

Your Answer to this question.
Because this is where manure exits a person
You don't stick your thing on dirty places
Unless you want to be sick

Because this is where fart gases are released
These gases are smelly and nauseating
It is not safe
It is very dirty and have some health issues:

Increased risk of bacterial infection
Increased risk of STIs
Worsen hemorrhoids
Increased risk of fistula, a rare complication​

My Response.
So god put such an abundance of pleasure-producing nerve endings in the anus because

this is where manure exits a person
You don't stick your thing on dirty places
Unless you want to be sick

Because this is where fart gases are released
These gases are smelly and nauseating
It is not safe
It is very dirty and have some health issues:

Increased risk of bacterial infection
Increased risk of STIs
Worsen hemorrhoids
Increased risk of fistula, a rare complication​

And this makes sense to you? Really???... It sure doesn't to me.

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If it is dirty, it is unsanitary.
If the A is kissable, go ahead make your day.
To me the A is:

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like a sewage pipe, where all waste matter exits.
Do you really want to play around here?

Now with regards to the body parts with most nerve endings these are:
  1. Your fingertip
  2. Your shin
  3. The arch of your foot
  4. The front and back of your knee
  5. Your funny bone
5 Body Parts That Are Extremely Sensitive to Pain | Men's Health

Those body parts have more nerve endings than the "A" where daily poop comes out
and having said so, did he intended them to be stimulated, and in turn provide sexual gratification?

In my opinion, dirty people just naturally gravitates toward dirty places.

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Dan From Smithville

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"One among many" what?


Because it's part of the evil god continually creates.

Isaiah 45:7
7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.​


Evidently that's the way god wants it. :shrug:


Because it's what sadists do: cause unhappiness, pain, and suffering.. .


No such thing.


Which no doubt delights your god, because if it didn't, as a loving god he'd get rid of them.

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A little off topic, but I do not know for sure if we have free will, but we appear to have it. Though, there seem to be limitations.
 

Dan From Smithville

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If it is dirty, it is unsanitary.
If the A is kissable, go ahead make your day.
To me the A is:

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like a sewage pipe, where all waste matter exits.
Do you really want to play around here?

Now with regards to the body parts with most nerve endings these are:
  1. Your fingertip
  2. Your shin
  3. The arch of your foot
  4. The front and back of your knee
  5. Your funny bone
5 Body Parts That Are Extremely Sensitive to Pain | Men's Health

Those body parts have more nerve endings than the "A" where daily poop comes out
and having said so, did he intended them to be stimulated, and in turn provide sexual gratification?

In my opinion, dirty people just naturally gravitates toward dirty places.

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Not all waste matter in our bodies exits via the anus. The penis is a sewer pipe by your definition and by the fact that it serves that purpose for elimination of excess fluid.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
A little off topic, but I do not know for sure if we have free will, but we appear to have it. Though, there seem to be limitations.
It certainly does appear so. In fact, I go through life behaving as if there is such a thing. .......................Can't help it. I have no choice. ;)

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Dan From Smithville

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It certainly does appear so. In fact, I go through life behaving as if there is such a thing. .......................Can't help it. I have no choice. ;)

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That thought has occurred to me as well and I do not have a solution to address it. Within a certain scope, we do appear to be able to choose. Whether that is real or not, I cannot say. Or perhaps that is the case, and we are limited to a certain range where we can choose. I can stop thinking about it and looking for answers anytime. I just don't want to stop. Yeah. That's it.
 

MJFlores

Well-Known Member
Penile-vaginal intercourse Risk Factors


1. Unwanted pregnancies.

2. Sexually Transmitted Diseases (STD’s).

3. HIV and AIDS Infection.

4. Financial costs of contraception (birth control), pregnancies, abortions, and diseases.

5. Financial costs of raising a child.

6. Guilt and low self-esteem.

7. Fear, worry, and stress.

8. Being sexually active is against most moral values, religious beliefs, and family values.

9. You can get used and hurt if you are sexually active.

10. Negative reputations.

11. Pregnant teens frequently have abortions, miscarriages,

babies with birth defects, complicated pregnancies, and SIDS babies.

12. Teen mothers and fathers frequently drop out of school, causing them to risk having a lifetime of poverty and low paying jobs.

13. Putting babies up for adoption.

14. Legal child support/custody battles.

15. Medical and health issues for both the mother and baby.

Source:

the consequences of being sexually active -




So both practices come with their downsides, don't they. :p Now what?

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That is the consequences of being sexually active, as you have disclosed as the title of your source.
Are people a bunch of perverted sex machines?
When you eliminate God in your life, most likely so - people will be always thinking about
lets make the whole planet like Sodom and Gomorrah and effing all the time.
That explains no 8 on your list.

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Further most of the listed disasters would possibly be worse in the US
where cost of living is high and there is no health care to speak of
But unwanted pregnancies, children are in the wish list of other countries
like Japan - whose population are aging and there are fewer Japanese babies born each day.

True Christians who are married exercise self control as commanded by the the words of God.
They are not "out of control sex maniacs" loose effing the first living thing they see.

What does the Bible say about these?

1 Corinthians 7:4-6 New International Version (NIV)
The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife. Do not deprive each other except perhaps by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. I say this as a concession, not as a command.
 

Dan From Smithville

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It certainly does appear so. In fact, I go through life behaving as if there is such a thing. .......................Can't help it. I have no choice. ;)

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I have often wondered how much of a choice the mythical Adam and Eve really had. Certainly, with the close relationship to God that Adam is supposed to have had according to Genesis, he had more of a choice than Eve did. There is little mention of any talks she had with God, letting her know what to do and what not to do.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
I have often wondered how much of a choice the mythical Adam and Eve really had. Certainly, with the close relationship to God that Adam is supposed to have had according to Genesis, he had more of a choice than Eve did. There is little mention of any talks she had with God, letting her know what to do and what not to do.
As a hard determinist I have found absolutely no circumstance under which we do anything that is not precipitated and determined by cause, which in turn must owe its existence to cause itself. It's cause/effect all the way back. There is no such thing as free choice or choosing. We do what we do because we cannot do otherwise.

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MJFlores

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Not all waste matter in our bodies exits via the anus. The penis is a sewer pipe by your definition and by the fact that it serves that purpose for elimination of excess fluid.

Very true.
But what is so gross are the solid and semi-solid waste.
And a person cannot fully clean the insides of the rectum
So when Richard enters the canal it would really be dirty and it would really smell bad.
It is a real turnoff, not to mention when the dirt enters inside the male urethra

Polymicrobial infection is common and there is overlap in symptoms caused by the organisms that may infect the anorectum. This article addresses the most common bacterial organisms that are sexually transmitted and affect the anorectum. It includes discussions of gonorrhea, campylobacter, chlamydia, shigella, chancroid, granuloma inguinale, and syphilis.
Bacterial Sexually Transmitted Diseases

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Trauma or injury can stretch the anal canal and create a tear in the lining of the anus. These tears, known as anal fissures, usually come from passing large or hard stools. They can cause pain and bleeding during and after bowel movements.

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It will take time to recover when that happens and the person would require a very strong antibiotic and pain reliever. It would be painful answering the call of nature because of the injury. And the risk of secondary infection is ever present.

This kind of sex has many Health Concerns and you can read it in:
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if you are really interested to find out

Anal Sex Safety and Health Concerns

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Dan From Smithville

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Premium Member
Very true.
But what is so gross are the solid and semi-solid waste.
And a person cannot fully clean the insides of the rectum
So when Richard enters the canal it would really be dirty and it would really smell bad.
It is a real turnoff, not to mention when the dirt enters inside the male urethra

Polymicrobial infection is common and there is overlap in symptoms caused by the organisms that may infect the anorectum. This article addresses the most common bacterial organisms that are sexually transmitted and affect the anorectum. It includes discussions of gonorrhea, campylobacter, chlamydia, shigella, chancroid, granuloma inguinale, and syphilis.
Bacterial Sexually Transmitted Diseases

images



Trauma or injury can stretch the anal canal and create a tear in the lining of the anus. These tears, known as anal fissures, usually come from passing large or hard stools. They can cause pain and bleeding during and after bowel movements.

images


It will take time to recover when that happens and the person would require a very strong antibiotic and pain reliever. It would be painful answering the call of nature because of the injury. And the risk of secondary infection is ever present.

This kind of sex has many Health Concerns and you can read it in:
webmd_logo.svg
if you are really interested to find out

Anal Sex Safety and Health Concerns

giphy.gif
Both the male and female genitals harbor microbial organisms and some of these can cause disease, yet that has not stopped mankind from breeding ourselves to 7 billion people and counting. I would not appreciate someone urinating on me, but that has not stopped me from having sex. Sometimes, I am that good that accidents happen.
 

Dan From Smithville

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As a hard determinist I have found absolutely no circumstance under which we do anything that is not precipitated and determined by cause, which in turn must owe its existence to cause itself. It's cause/effect all the way back. There is no such thing as free choice or choosing. We do what we do because we cannot do otherwise.

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I will have to give it some thought. This used to be a family argument--yeah, we were weird I guess, maybe we had no choice--and I will have to give it some thought. As I see it, we have the appearance of free will, but that may just be appearances. Perhaps the subject for a thread to come.
 

MJFlores

Well-Known Member
Both the male and female genitals harbor microbial organisms and some of these can cause disease, yet that has not stopped mankind from breeding ourselves to 7 billion people and counting. I would not appreciate someone urinating on me, but that has not stopped me from having sex. Sometimes, I am that good that accidents happen.

That is your method
As I have mentioned yesterday in a different post

Different folks different strokes
Some people want to go to the beaches
Some people want to go to Sodom
Each has his own pleasure
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Very true.
But what is so gross are the solid and semi-solid waste.
And a person cannot fully clean the insides of the rectum
So when Richard enters the canal it would really be dirty and it would really smell bad.
It is a real turnoff, not to mention when the dirt enters inside the male urethra

Polymicrobial infection is common and there is overlap in symptoms caused by the organisms that may infect the anorectum. This article addresses the most common bacterial organisms that are sexually transmitted and affect the anorectum. It includes discussions of gonorrhea, campylobacter, chlamydia, shigella, chancroid, granuloma inguinale, and syphilis.
Bacterial Sexually Transmitted Diseases

images



Trauma or injury can stretch the anal canal and create a tear in the lining of the anus. These tears, known as anal fissures, usually come from passing large or hard stools. They can cause pain and bleeding during and after bowel movements.

images


It will take time to recover when that happens and the person would require a very strong antibiotic and pain reliever. It would be painful answering the call of nature because of the injury. And the risk of secondary infection is ever present.

This kind of sex has many Health Concerns and you can read it in:
webmd_logo.svg
if you are really interested to find out

Anal Sex Safety and Health Concerns

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Richard could always wear a raincoat for such activity. Or do it in the shower. Clean your partner inside and out.
 

MJFlores

Well-Known Member
Richard could always wear a raincoat for such activity. Or do it in the shower. Clean your partner inside and out.

I think there is some cultural issue on this matter
that is why we have a great difference of opinions
I think Caucasians would prefer the back door while Asians do not
Asians like me
We have smaller butts compared to others

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So what is pleasurable to you, might be a disaster for us.
Raincoat or no raincoat

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Samael_Khan

Goosebender
There are at least two ways of thinking of this:

1) It does seem that men in general see homosexuality as weird. And mainly unmanly (since one man has to be submissive to another man. Very not alpha male). So they are naturally repulsed by the act. And this influenced theology.

2) As a creator, God can say Yay or Nay to whatever he feels like, since his creation would belong to him. And they must obey him or die. Which is a viewpoint we might very well relate to since we are embarking on creating sentient beings such as AI. In this case it is circumstantial. If the Christian God exists then from his viewpoint man must multiply and homosexuality is acting contrary to this command. Also, as in Romans 1, homosexuality is said to be a product of debased morality. So if you don't believe in God there is no actual moral issue with it since it only affects those involved in a pleasurable way as long as it is consensual.
 
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