Ancient Reality

gnostic said:

No one really know how they built them...

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Exactly. For once we are in complete agreement.

But I have shown ramps were not and could not have been used.

I have found virtually conclusive physical evidence that only appeared by reverse engineering the pyramids simultaneously to coming to understand how Ancient Language worked. They used linear funiculars exactly as suggested by the gravimetric scan. The ability to model the meaning of the Pyramid Texts allowed me to predict the thermal anomaly on the east side.

A real scientist doesn't know much of anything but I have a pretty good confidence that the great pyramids were all built with counterweights full of water that we call "funiculars" and they called the "Bull of Heaven". It's really quite simple. If they meant exactly what they LITERALLY said in the PT then we are confused about nearly everything and their language was logical, consistent, and metaphysical.

cladking said:

Let me rephrase this.

German Egyptologists can't understand German. Spanish Egyptologists don't understand Spanish and Japanese Egyptologists don't understand Japanese.

What all Egyptologists have in common is that they don't understand Ancient Language, never noticed it breaks Zipf's Law, and never noticed it has no words for "thought" or "belief".

I could spell this out for you every time if you ever replied to my arguments but until then I'll just say they don't speak English or they have poor reading comprehension. There's a lot of this going around.

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How many languages do you read and speak fluently?

sooda said:

How many languages do you read and speak fluently?

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Short answer; I am "fluent" in English and no Egyptologist is. Because of this my fluency in Ancient Language would be about comparable to one of their three year old's.

https://www.sacred-texts.com/egy/pyt/index.htm

No Egyptologist can understand Ancient Language at all simply because it is untranslatable. It can not be parsed or deconstructed and Egyptologists don't know this.

Someone could become fairly fluent in Ancient Language from the time of the pyramid builders but it will REQUIRE redevelopment of ancient science and metaphysics.

Egyptologists don't understand the concept of metaphysical language because they believe ancient people thought exactly as we do. They believe the language was parsed.

sooda said:

How many languages do you read and speak fluently?

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cladking said:

Short answer; I am "fluent" in English and no Egyptologist is. Because of this my fluency in Ancient Language would be about comparable to one of their three year old's.

https://www.sacred-texts.com/egy/pyt/index.htm

No Egyptologist can understand Ancient Language at all simply because it is untranslatable. It can not be parsed or deconstructed and Egyptologists don't know this.

Someone could become fairly fluent in Ancient Language from the time of the pyramid builders but it will REQUIRE redevelopment of ancient science and metaphysics.

Egyptologists don't understand the concept of metaphysical language because they believe ancient people thought exactly as we do. They believe the language was parsed.

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In another word, @sooda, cladking is saying “no”, he can’t speak ancient Egyptians.

And another “no” that he can’t read Egyptian hieroglyphs.

All cladking is doing, is merely interpreting whatever English translation of PT he is using, and the really funny thing is that he think he can authoritatively correct the translators, when he has absolutely no experience in reading the untranslated hieroglyphs of the Pyramid Texts.

There lies his deception.

If English is the only language he can read, then the translations are the only avenues that he can have access to.

Which means he cannot possibly know the original contexts of any passage from a literature in the original native language, and therefore cannot correct the translators.

And yet, he think is authorized to say the translators are all wrong, and that he is the only person who is right, only demonstrated that he deceiving us, as well as deceiving himself of his capabilities, his expertise.

For instance, how can he claim to be “fluent in the Ancient Language”, when he himself cannot read the language?

He is being ridiculous, and making baseless claims of his expertise.

gnostic said:

There lies his deception.

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There is no "deception" here.

Actually, I understand quite a few of the glyphs that Egyptologists have no clue. For instance they believe the star in the circle is an "imaginary place under the ground where imaginary consciousnesses exist". This is simple twaddle and they don't so much as have a clue how such a symbol came to symbolize such an insane thing. The reality is that this logogram (they don't even understand the nature of a logogram) represents (they don't understand there were no symbols) an imperishable star (they don't understand that a star actually represents bubbles in mist) in the arm of the sky (they don't understand that all things had three words and all words had a single meaning so of course they don't understand that the arm of nut is a hole in the earth). The depths of Egyptological ignorance may never be plumbed, unlike the "ankh" with the "duat" below, the stars above, and the eye of horus at the horizon since zep tepi.

To give you an inkling of Egyptological ignorance they actually believe that the Pyramid Texts is a book of incantation and (believe it or not) they've actually been parsing it for 150 years in the belief (!) they can come to understand the authors! This is ignorance on a Biblical scale. It would be akin to trying to understand 21st century society by parsing a thesaurus. They simply don't have a clue how bad their methodology is and how unrealistic it is to try to understand people from a book of magic. It's nuts really.

My methodology couldn't be more sound even if it is somewhat "unusual". Most people have no clue how "reverse engineering" works but it's principally deduction and intuition and I happen to be pretty good at it. Few realize that everyone makes sense so no one ever tried to understand the Pyramid Texts before. Well, perhaps they did but without a great deal of modern scientific knowledge right at one's fingertips it's almost impossible. It required the solution of words in context which is mostly (again) deduction and intuition. I'm even better at this. Indeed, these are among the very few things I am good at. I figured out the meaning of each word and then plugged this meaning into every sentence in which it appeared. This allowed the solution of more and more words until I was able to model the meaning of this metaphysical language. Simultaneously with this I was (still am) reverse engineering the pyramids. This reverse engineering relies almost strictly on physical evidence and the understanding of "physical law" and as such this served as a check on modelling Ancient Language while at the same time my understanding of the meaning served to highlight the relevant physical features.

Of course, I fully understand that the process just describe is akin to Look and See Science but the application of this label is wholly inappropriate for two reasons. One is that it is sound ancient science but more importantly my theory is the ONLY THEORY of ancient reality that makes accurate predictions AND explains all the evidence. The former "proves" its accuracy and the latter suggests it is right.

It could be said I am the only true Egyptologist in the world. Simply stated Egyptology isn't science at all it is a branch of linguistics and no Egyptologist can tell you the meaning of things like glyphs F46-50, the eye of horus, the ankh, the djed etc etc.... No Egyptologist understands a single line in the PT as proven by the fact there is no agreement about the meaning of a single line. They don't even translate most of them similarly because they are all at different stages of turning the Pyramid Texts into the book of the dead. No Egyptologist can explain why the language breaks linguistic law and incredibly not one of them ever noticed that it does.

There's reason and logic and there are Egyptologists who don't care one whit how the pyramids were built, but KNOW it mustta been ramps. They are proud of not caring and even say that to understand the pyramids you must look away from them. They refuse to do the simple testing that would show how they were built which matters because somebody put them in charge of the pyramids and their Look and See Science now rules everything because most of our historical understanding rests on the nonsense called "Egyptology".

Now you have another whole post of logic, argument, and facts to simply ignore.

Are you going to come back insisting ramps are a strawman or that Look and See Science is good enough for modern times?

cladking said:

The depths of Egyptological ignorance may never be plumbed, unlike the "ankh" with the "duat" below, the stars above, and the eye of horus at the horizon since zep tepi.

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You probably missed this just as you miss everything I say;

459a. Men bury themselves (in their grave (?); the gods fly up.

The ancient water sources (star in a circle) were plumbed.

cladking said:

You probably missed this just as you miss everything I say;

459a. Men bury themselves (in their grave (?); the gods fly up.

The ancient water sources (star in a circle) were plumbed.

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You can believe that the ancients spoke gobbledty gook which must be forever incomprehensible or that they meant exactly and literally everything they said. The former implies we're nuts for even trying to understand it and the latter shows the way back to the tower of babel so we can right the wrongs.

This isn't tough. There were no ramps and all the evidence clearly shows the use of linear funiculars. It shows Look and See Science has led us far astray. We are on a 200 year detour from a 4000 year detour. We have wandered in the desert for 40 centuries and now we've forgotten we're lost.

cladking said:

But I have shown ramps were not and could not have been used.

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And this amazing feat has been vetted by whom?

I have found virtually conclusive physical evidence

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Let's see it!

A real scientist doesn't know much of anything.

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Standard hubris of the Dunning-Krugerite.

gnostic said:

In another word, @sooda, cladking is saying “no”, he can’t speak ancient Egyptians.

And another “no” that he can’t read Egyptian hieroglyphs.

All cladking is doing, is merely interpreting whatever English translation of PT he is using, and the really funny thing is that he think he can authoritatively correct the translators, when he has absolutely no experience in reading the untranslated hieroglyphs of the Pyramid Texts.

There lies his deception.

If English is the only language he can read, then the translations are the only avenues that he can have access to.
...For instance, how can he claim to be “fluent in the Ancient Language”, when he himself cannot read the language?

He is being ridiculous, and making baseless claims of his expertise.

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Don't they all?

cladking said:

It shows Look and See Science has led us far astray. ... We have wandered in the desert for 40 centuries and now we've forgotten we're lost.

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Good thing you - the great Arbiter of ALL TRUTH, is here on this internet forum to set the whole world straight!

Amazing, isn't it, how you and only you know the realities of how the pyramids were built, hieroglyphics, ancient history and language, genetics, evolutionary biology, etc.

Truly fantastic...

cladking said:

Exactly. For once we are in complete agreement.

But I have shown ramps were not and could not have been used.

I have found virtually conclusive physical evidence that only appeared by reverse engineering the pyramids simultaneously to coming to understand how Ancient Language worked. They used linear funiculars exactly as suggested by the gravimetric scan. The ability to model the meaning of the Pyramid Texts allowed me to predict the thermal anomaly on the east side.

A real scientist doesn't know much of anything but I have a pretty good confidence that the great pyramids were all built with counterweights full of water that we call "funiculars" and they called the "Bull of Heaven". It's really quite simple. If they meant exactly what they LITERALLY said in the PT then we are confused about nearly everything and their language was logical, consistent, and metaphysical.

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Building the Giza Pyramids - Water shaft theory - World Mysteries Blog

Why do you think there were geysers in Egypt?

cladking said:

It could be said I am the only true Egyptologist in the world.

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This sentence alone is enough to lead me to disregard anything you say.

cladking said:

There is no "deception" here.

Actually, I understand quite a few of the glyphs that Egyptologists have no clue. For instance they believe the star in the circle is an "imaginary place under the ground where imaginary consciousnesses exist". This is simple twaddle and they don't so much as have a clue how such a symbol came to symbolize such an insane thing. The reality is that this logogram (they don't even understand the nature of a logogram) represents (they don't understand there were no symbols) an imperishable star (they don't understand that a star actually represents bubbles in mist) in the arm of the sky (they don't understand that all things had three words and all words had a single meaning so of course they don't understand that the arm of nut is a hole in the earth). The depths of Egyptological ignorance may never be plumbed, unlike the "ankh" with the "duat" below, the stars above, and the eye of horus at the horizon since zep tepi.

To give you an inkling of Egyptological ignorance they actually believe that the Pyramid Texts is a book of incantation and (believe it or not) they've actually been parsing it for 150 years in the belief (!) they can come to understand the authors! This is ignorance on a Biblical scale. It would be akin to trying to understand 21st century society by parsing a thesaurus. They simply don't have a clue how bad their methodology is and how unrealistic it is to try to understand people from a book of magic. It's nuts really.

My methodology couldn't be more sound even if it is somewhat "unusual". Most people have no clue how "reverse engineering" works but it's principally deduction and intuition and I happen to be pretty good at it. Few realize that everyone makes sense so no one ever tried to understand the Pyramid Texts before. Well, perhaps they did but without a great deal of modern scientific knowledge right at one's fingertips it's almost impossible. It required the solution of words in context which is mostly (again) deduction and intuition. I'm even better at this. Indeed, these are among the very few things I am good at. I figured out the meaning of each word and then plugged this meaning into every sentence in which it appeared. This allowed the solution of more and more words until I was able to model the meaning of this metaphysical language. Simultaneously with this I was (still am) reverse engineering the pyramids. This reverse engineering relies almost strictly on physical evidence and the understanding of "physical law" and as such this served as a check on modelling Ancient Language while at the same time my understanding of the meaning served to highlight the relevant physical features.

Of course, I fully understand that the process just describe is akin to Look and See Science but the application of this label is wholly inappropriate for two reasons. One is that it is sound ancient science but more importantly my theory is the ONLY THEORY of ancient reality that makes accurate predictions AND explains all the evidence. The former "proves" its accuracy and the latter suggests it is right.

It could be said I am the only true Egyptologist in the world. Simply stated Egyptology isn't science at all it is a branch of linguistics and no Egyptologist can tell you the meaning of things like glyphs F46-50, the eye of horus, the ankh, the djed etc etc.... No Egyptologist understands a single line in the PT as proven by the fact there is no agreement about the meaning of a single line. They don't even translate most of them similarly because they are all at different stages of turning the Pyramid Texts into the book of the dead. No Egyptologist can explain why the language breaks linguistic law and incredibly not one of them ever noticed that it does.

There's reason and logic and there are Egyptologists who don't care one whit how the pyramids were built, but KNOW it mustta been ramps. They are proud of not caring and even say that to understand the pyramids you must look away from them. They refuse to do the simple testing that would show how they were built which matters because somebody put them in charge of the pyramids and their Look and See Science now rules everything because most of our historical understanding rests on the nonsense called "Egyptology".

Now you have another whole post of logic, argument, and facts to simply ignore.

Are you going to come back insisting ramps are a strawman or that Look and See Science is good enough for modern times?

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Have you ever been to Egypt?

Polymath257 said:

This sentence alone is enough to lead me to disregard anything you say.

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What Does a Star With a Circle Around It Mean? - Reference
https://www.reference.com/world-view/star-circle-around-mean-f266d040fbb0c186
A star with a circle around it, called a pentacle, is used to symbolize harmony, protection, eternity and infinity. It is also used to refer to the cycles of nature and human life. The circle often circumscribes a five-point star, also known as a pentagram.

sooda said:

Have you ever been to Egypt?

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You like to look things up. See of there is a term /
condition re people who get obsessed with
something the think is "science" and their role
as the lone seeker after deeper truths.

I ran across one such but his thing was
bigfoot. He alone had established contact with
them, knew how they relate to UFOs, the
Bermuda triangle.

Or the people they get on Coast to Coast,

Audie said:

You like to look things up. See of there is a term /
condition re people who get obsessed with
something the think is "science" and their role
as the lone seeker after deeper truths.

I ran across one such but his thing was
bigfoot. He alone had established contact with
them, knew how they relate to UFOs, the
Bermuda triangle.

Or the people they get on Coast to Coast,

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Pseudoscience is the representation of ideas or beliefs as scientific without scientific basis. Most of the time, it becomes hard for a person to differentiate between science and pseudoscience and that is what makes it dangerous. Unfortunately, our modern world is obsessed with pseudoscience.

Some people would do anything to avoid those so-called unlucky numbers, because they have been told those numbers can have a bad impact on their lives. I have seen many people who wear rings with the gems of specific color as they believe it will have a positive effect on their personalities and lives. This in fact is absurd and can’t be proven, but some people don’t even need proofs to convince them. Negative Ion Bracelet is one of the good examples.

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Pseudoscience Or Simply, Science Vs Religion - Sparkonit

Trump is obsessed with pseudoscience.

sooda said:

Pseudoscience is the representation of ideas or beliefs as scientific without scientific basis. Most of the time, it becomes hard for a person to differentiate between science and pseudoscience and that is what makes it dangerous. Unfortunately, our modern world is obsessed with pseudoscience.

Some people would do anything to avoid those so-called unlucky numbers, because they have been told those numbers can have a bad impact on their lives. I have seen many people who wear rings with the gems of specific color as they believe it will have a positive effect on their personalities and lives. This in fact is absurd and can’t be proven, but some people don’t even need proofs to convince them. Negative Ion Bracelet is one of the good examples.

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Pseudoscience Or Simply, Science Vs Religion - Sparkonit

Trump is obsessed with pseudoscience.

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I know what "pseudoscience" is. You did not address
the question, though. If you do not know a term for
the state of mind I refer to, that is ok, I don't either.

That is the first such statement about Trump
that I have ever heard.

There is, of course, a known condition that
refers to those who make everything about
Trump. It is called TDS.

Audie said:

I know what "pseudoscience" is. You did not address
the question, though. If you do not know a term for
the state of mind I refer to, that is ok, I don't either.

That is the first such statement about Trump
that I have ever heard.

There is, of course, a known condition that
refers to those who make everything about
Trump. It is called TDS.

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A History of Donald Trump's Obsession with Pseudoscience
https://www.esquire.com/.../donald-trump-anti-vaccine-climate-change-denial-pseudoscience
May 04, 2019 · A History of Donald Trump's Obsession with Pseudoscience. Between climate change denial, conspiracy theories about windmills, and a cabinet full of …

sooda said:

A History of Donald Trump's Obsession with Pseudoscience
https://www.esquire.com/.../donald-trump-anti-vaccine-climate-change-denial-pseudoscience
May 04, 2019 · A History of Donald Trump's Obsession with Pseudoscience. Between climate change denial, conspiracy theories about windmills, and a cabinet full of …

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Ok, that would not be what I'd call an obsession,
and not at all like the condition of thinking one is
the best, or sole egyptologist, or other lone genius
scientist.

Similar people get obsessed with numbers, trying
to correlate everything with the angle of the Bermuda
triangle with the cube root of the pyramid and,
you know.


While I am hardly a Trump fan, I think the
attempt at "death by a thousand cuts" against the T
may entertain or even energize the already- committed
anti Ts, I think that overall it is counter productive.

It all tends to blur into a sort of fog of what looks like
and often enough is just TDS nuttiness, and the
more of it there is, the more his fans will see it
that way.

There is more than enough to discourage
the most ardent fan, if the real and important
things were out in the open.

But anyway, this is not about the T.

Audie said:

Ok, that would not be what I'd call an obsession,
and not at all like the condition of thinking one is
the best, or sole egyptologist, or other lone genius
scientist.

Similar people get obsessed with numbers, trying
to correlate everything with the angle of the Bermuda
triangle with the cube root of the pyramid and,
you know.


While I am hardly a Trump fan, I think the
attempt at "death by a thousand cuts" against the T
may entertain or even energize the already- committed
anti Ts, I think that overall it is counter productive.

It all tends to blur into a sort of fog of what looks like
and often enough is just TDS nuttiness, and the
more of it there is, the more his fans will see it
that way.

There is more than enough to discourage
the most ardent fan, if the real and important
things were out in the open.

But anyway, this is not about the T.

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Chaos makes a good cover story for pseudoscience and obsession.